10 year old girl gave birth !

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  1. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    In the states, rape (some type of penetration) is far worse a crime than sexual assault (unwanted sexually oriented contact...even touching above clothes). People will often try to plea bargain something like attempted rape down to aggravated sexual assault for a lighter sentence.

    The original comment had a connotation to it that basically grouped together anyone who in their life had spent their early years in the corporate world and later were racing against the clock for children. That's mainly what I was attacking. I know there is obviously an equilibrium one needs to achieve... I still thought it was a very short-sighted comment.

    I guess "seems" would be the key word I'm trying to point out. I would highly recommend not expressing your point of view at a dinner party. Someone might kick you in the balls.

    Adoption is definitely not for everyone. Suggesting to someone that's having trouble conceiving is also pretty dangerous.

    I don't keep up with your part of the world (or mine for the most part, or the one I used to live in) but I do know when it comes to people abusing the system, the close to 40 married w/ no children demographic is probably the lowest one. The in the 20's w/ too many children, the highest.

    Oral sex is still illegal in quite a few states. Sodomy laws were just repealed in Texas. The case involved cops busting down the wrong door, and finding two gay males (that lived together) engaging in anal sex. They were arrested, if you can believe that. People want to say cops don't abuse their power ? Ha. To whomever says that I laugh, flip off, and might even flat ham.
     
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    In hindsight, I probably was sounding like a better-than-everyone cock. I was more trying to explain Parris' comment than give my own opinion (which I did later)
     
  3. neull

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    Wow, I can't believe that she was that young and had a baby.
     
  4. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    now that's messed-up

    The incidental discovery of what two people do between themselves in their own privacy, then get arrested is messed-up.

    BUT

    consider that if it was a criminal offence, like being busted by mistake while having 2K of cocaine sitting on your table then they were just doing their job.

    Hence it was the legislator's lack of understanding for the gays , not the police abusing its powers. The police are instruments of the Law, rarely given any discretion in its application(in theory at least)
     
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  5. GaijinPunch

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    Police abusing power. Cops in the US have a ton of discretionary power. You can get caught with weed and quite often they just make you throw it out. I was arrested once for "disregard of a police offer's lawful order" (I couldn't hear him). It's a class C misdemeanor, which basically means it's a traffic ticket. When I asked "can you really arrest me for that"?. "Officer's discretion" I was told.

    Anyway, you can go to any video store and rent guys ass banging each other until their blue in the face (and ass). I'm pretty sure that if it's illegal to do in a state, it's illegal to have on film in said state (regardless of where it was filmed). For all the pigs knew, they could've been simulating. I doubt any of them got close enough to tell. Just a couple of homophobic, red neck cops (which are most of them in Texas, unfortunately). Anyway, the gay couple appealed and won.

    Read all about it at CNN. Looks like it was 4 years ago when it finally finished. The hysterically funny thing is, is this cops probably thought, "let's show these fags a lesson" and in turn, they basically opened the flood gates for sexual rights amongst gays in the whole nation. Someone find a good "pwned" picture. I'm way too cool to do that.
     
  6. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Sorry, GP by impression is that you just dislike people not holding the same opinion as yourself inspite of people forming those opinions through their experience of parenthood etc, etc.

    As stated before, I really have no qualms with you or your "opinion", irrespective of it being different from mine. It doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it wrong, however you seem to suggest that your own opinion is the more valid or accepted in polite society.

    Ho hum, I guess we shouldn't sit down, have a drink together and discuss politics. :lol:
     
  7. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I don't dislike people for their opinions (except ones on the really far right I guess) but it doesn't mean I can't dislike the opinion... or more to the point, the way it's expressed.
     
  8. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    As somebody who's been wrongfully diagnosed wtih Aspergers (all my signs of it point closer to Anxiety and depressive disorders than AS) Becuase of my two Autistic Siblings (had they been normal I most cirtanly would've gotten a more accurate diagnoses of Anxiety or Depression.) I can say ALOT of people with AS are pompus know it all jackasses. Alot of them are very Millitant on letting others know they have it and are not open to the possibility of others diagnosed with it having something else. There's also the inability to recognize emotion and difficulty identifying with people. Neither of which suit me in the least. I thrive on the emotions of others and always go out of my way to connect with people on a personal level. So I'm completly lost as to where they got it from other than my brother and sister and a few minor qwirks I have like pacing in deep thoughts and my tendancy to repeat my self often. Neither of which scream AUTISM to me.
     
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  9. andoba

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    That kind of laws are just stupid. If they're both are mentally mature to do have sex, I don't see the problem.
     
  10. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    In which case, fine. There are a plethora of comments posted on a daily basis on here that irk my sensibilities, but I tend to give those comments either a wide berth or the person who posted it the benefit of the doubt.

    We all hold varied opinions borne of different cultural, social & life experiences.

    Most of the threads on here are incredibly throw away, rapid comments, remarks and opinions as quickly erased from memory as written. We sit in different parts of the world, not having met once and try to establish a rapport. Sometimes that doesn't work!

    In this instance I just felt that a slight of hand comment, about my own opinion was taken out of context. No hard feelings in the slightest I trust?

    I still hold that opinion, but if you ever invite me to a polite dinner party, I promise not to express it in front of your guests lest it offends.

    I'm not the most politically correct individual.
     
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    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    There's that saying "I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it"

    However I'll add........unless what you say makes me me question your sanity.
     
  12. Hawanja

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    Have to agree with Gajin on this one, cops in the US make decisions for a living. Sodomy laws are usually arcane leftovers from the 18th century, and the only reason someone would be busted under one is for political reasons.

    As for the statutory rape thing, well when I was 18 I had a 16 year old girl friend, I don't think there was anything wrong with that. These rape cases between kids are rediculous - they're usualy becasue the girl's parents caught the two kids together and are persecuting the boy just becasue they can. There's no other reason except they want to get back at thier daughter, and the boy pays for it. It's bullshit, no one really thinks the sex is not consentual. These laws are desgined to keep someone a lot older from exploiting a young kid, like someone in thier twenties from taking advantage of little girls, not someone who is 18 from dating a 17 year old.

    Speaking of that particular case, of the 18 year old kid getting ten years for oral from his 17 year old girl friend, I hope he gets off the hook. One of the mistakes we tend to make is to identify a movement with it's representatives (i.e. Al Sharpton.) While it's true that Sharpton tends to be a media whore, popping his head up wherever he can get the most exposure, in this particular case I think he's doing the right thing. A year difference in age should not condemn this poor kid to prision, and only a sick society would enforce something like this.

    Guess the lesson is, don't play around with little girls.
     
  13. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Exactly, what's the point of "freedom of speech" when it isn't upheld lol
     
  14. WolverineDK

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    GodOfHardcore: whether I am wrongfully being daignosed too with AS. Then it is in me a fuckedup description about the whole ass thing. Since I have a sense of humor, I can show emotions. And alot of other stuff, but AS , ADD and ADHD has become so damn popular now adays. That "normal" disturbed kids has been diagnosed with it, and that is what makes me angry too. Because none of them are what I would call real "diagnosed" people. They are just fuckedup shitheads. And inbred sons of bitches too. So the thing about not showing emotion or not is not true. or for that matter, we don´t have humour. Or we don´t understand irony (I could go fucking on man). Well, yes I have hard times with irony, but I get most of it. But sometimes I don´t give a shit about irony, and other times I do. But anyway back to our little AS happening, AS is being perfectly normal with a tiny bit of autism, and that is it. All that factual shit about we don´t have humour, and all that kind of crap, are lies that lives on, also on the internet and it makes me sick. A female friend I have has AS too, and she would protest against most of the fuckedup wiki article which again is based on facts of very fucking old times, from psychiatrists who knew shit for bricks.

    Check this old thread out please,
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5430

    GodOfHardcore I like you. So whether you have AS or not, then be cool man.

    And having photographic memory is a bitch at times mate. And I thrive on other peoples emotion too, and I love social happenings, I don´t know anything better. And I love to help other people. And GodOfHardcore, I do believe you have AS. Since on the internet , then old knowledge about AS are "facts" when in reality, then they are lies. Talk to me, any time about this and that. And you will understand , that the picture of AS is completely wrong. And PM me , if you have questions, which you don´t want to be answered here in this thread. Peace man, and stay cool.
     
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  15. GodofHardcore

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    I don't mind being open about my personal problems. So here goes.

    I'm about 99% sure what I have is an Anxiety Disorder.

    Some of my best friends have ADHD and have more autistic tendanceies than I do. and They DO have ADHD not wrongfully diagnosed.

    From what I understand about AS it just sounds like a completely Made up and fabrecated disorder to spike autism diagnososes. Especally in my case when it's quite obvious I have an Anxiety Disorder that's been mistaken for something else. I've been diagnosed with ADD as well among other things
    I've never been branded the same thing twice SO either there's nothing wrong with me and I've been conditioned to think there is OR I developed something over time because of these false diagnoses.

    Remember I live in the US where whatever the IT thing to be diagnosed with is what's diagnosed weither that's what you have or not.

    I also have a friend with GAD (gernalized anxiety disorder) and he and I are like behavioral twins....I just have a bit more of a personality than he does.

    I'll PM you all my signs and see what you think.
     
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    love is in the air
     
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  18. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    If I can be remotely lumped into the group that's taking the brunt of the comment, I tend to strike. Human nature, I would say.
     
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    I'm not trying to be a douchebag or anything, but I've heard people sat that Aspergers syndrome was a "made-up" disease to excuse people for being nerdy and antisocial.
     
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    I had a football coach that said, "A.D.D... none of these coulds would have it if their parents would take a board to their butt..."
     
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