360 recovery

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  1. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    Anyone who has one of any build PM me I need to talk you.
     
  2. Hawk

    Hawk Peppy Member

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    Why do I have the strangest idea that you are going to try to "recover" a retail.

    On a side note It does run on a retail, but well I don't want to wipe the HDD and reflash the NAND when it fails because it's too small to fit the flash image on there.
     
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  3. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    I, for one, would love to see someone try it on video. It would certainly be a YouTube hit. ;)

    -hl718
     
  4. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    Yes I will be recovering it but I don't expect it to work I am doing some other stuff with it. I can make a youtube video if you want I don't know what to expect but I'm guessing E74 at best. Won't be that entertaining.
     
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  5. mathieulh

    mathieulh Problem Solver

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    The efuses are different from retail to debug and they are checked by SB when the kernel runs, this is the main reason a debug kernel wont run on a retail box. using a recovery disc as-is would flash such kernel to a retail box which does not have the proper efuses set. This would pretty much render your console into a brick. (though it could be be recovered through a nand reflash)

    If you really want to try it, be my guest but it wont work.
     
  6. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    Unfortunatly I didn't take into account my nand is only 16 megs and the recovery fails at 00000x47. I was planning to "brick" (not so much) my console on purpose so I could then dump the image via lpt and extract its contents along with the kv already set and more to see if I could use some of the files from it for another experiment. Needless to say failed at 000000x47. After fail the console still booted as normal. I guess I'll have to wait till I recieve my kit to test files on the retail. My intent was never to "convert" my console but borrow some files from it :p.

    PS: at this point all this is purely educational to me and really beneficial to no one but me I can now do stuff like this that I couldn't do on my XeDK due to the fact I can repair nand as I please at this point.
     
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  7. bearkilla

    bearkilla Robust Member

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    wouldn't it be possible to extract the nand image from the recovery iso?
     
  8. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    They are in .bin files. You want to take a crack at it?
     
  9. Hawk

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    Don't you have a dev kit? You can use um a program to get files directly from the NAND without doing anything to the console.
     
  10. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    You can use neighborhood. My devkit is currently out of commission receiving a new one shortly. Hence why I must wait.
     
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  11. Tyler

    Tyler Enthusiastic Member

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    Couldn't you reboot into a dev kernle, if we can emulate retail fuses with a rebooter why not dev fuses?, or do we just need a 512 jasper?
    what happens if u just launch xam.xex of a usb stick on a retail? anyone try it?
     
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  12. LEo

    LEo Fiery Member

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    Thing is you can't just magically boot xam there is alot more to it. I tried it on the dev I coudnt get it to run on its own.
     
  13. bearkilla

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    sounds possible to me - although can't see the people who have spent 1k+ on a dev kit pushing for that to happen ;)
     
  14. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Yes its possible.
     
  15. bearkilla

    bearkilla Robust Member

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    can you connect to PN aswell?
     
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    if you do that.. and run a devkit nand on retail MS would come down harder on pnet and add extra security's...

    just saying.. if devkit nands run on retail then devkit owners will get a lot harder time.. and maybe loose a few of their freedoms...
     
  17. bearkilla

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    i'm not planning on doing it, i'm happy with xbr.
     
  18. ddxcb

    ddxcb Gota J.T.A.G. That Xbone Yo.

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    if someone fig out how to get a dev to work on retail and releace it fig out how to remove the pnet signin xex so we can do RTH, build, and allow real dev to have pnet.
     
  19. icekiller

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    problem with that is... if you can run it you can use recovery.
     
  20. hl718

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    Just for clarity's sake:

    Technical discussion about getting a dev kernel up and running is fine.

    What is NOT fine is posting/sharing of the core dev files. No one has done this yet which is great and I thank you for that.

    Basically, feel free to share whatever you've managed to learn. Don't go posting any copyrighted Microsoft files however.

    As far as dev on retail and pnet, if one takes any time to read the Chinese boards it would seem that Microsoft has no problem banning systems from pnet.

    I'd also keep in mind, for anyone in the US, UK or EU, that connecting to pnet with a hacked retail could fall afoul of computer hacking/access laws and subject you to criminal exposure and plenty of legal liability. That's a big risk.

    What you do on the hardware you bought is your business. Once you use that hardware to connect to a private network without authorization, you're looking at some steep penalties if caught.

    And now back to our regularly scheduled discussion. :)

    -hl718
     
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