I don't think so. I think the technology, while somewhat flawed (ghosting) is superb, and the 3DS has an incredible amount of potential. In terms of the weak software, I think we need to go back and look at what "Year One" was for the original DS was. Or even "Year One" for the PSP. In my mind the 3DS already has a leg-up over those two, as its launch library is a bit better. I mean seriously, I remember getting hyped about Zoo Keeper, Zoo Keeper, with the original DS because I was so starved for games as an early adopter. With the 3DS I currently have 5 games, all of which range from solid to great, and there are about 5 games coming out by the end of June that I'm thinking forward to (Dream Trigger 3D, Dead or Alive Dimensions, Devil Summoner Overclocked, Ocarina of Time, Pac-Man & Galaga Dimensions). With one more launch title I would like to get, that would put me at 11 games by the end of June. Not bad for a 3 month time span. By comparison, I had I think 10 games by the end of the original DS's first YEAR on the market. And a handful of those (Zoo Keeper, Yoshi's Touch&Go, Wario Ware: Touched!, Feel the Magic) were either incredibly simple or were simply a collection of mini-games.
I just don't see a reason to buy one at this point, especially at that price. As of yet there's no software to justify it. I've also come to the realization that I don't really use handhelds that often. As some other people have said, now that many of us own smartphones or iPads or whatever that are capable of simple gaming, the 3DS loses much of its advantage. In my case, I'm more than happy to stick to SNES9x on my Android phone. Honestly I'd rather play the classics than 3DS titles anyway. How many of you own a DS/PSP and do nothing on it but run emulators?
Ape Escape: On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin' Trails, Sony Computer Entertainment America Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower, Capcom Dynasty Warriors, KOEI FIFA 2005, Electronic Arts Gretzky NHL, Sony Computer Entertainment America Lumines, Ubisoft Metal Gear Acid, Konami MLB, Sony Computer Entertainment America MVP Baseball, Electronic Arts NBA, Sony Computer Entertainment America NBA Street Showdown, Electronic Arts Need for Speed Rivals, Electronic Arts NFL Street 2 Unleashed, Electronic Arts Rengoku: Tower of Purgatory, Konami Ridge Racer, Namco Smartbomb, Eidos Interactive Spider-Man 2, Activision Tiger Woods PGA TOUR, Electronic Arts Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix, Activision Twisted Metal: Head On, Sony Computer Entertainment America Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment Wipeout Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America World Tour Soccer, Sony Computer Entertainment America That was just the launch lineup. I bold the ones I feel are far better then anything on the 3DS at the moment. Sure 3DS has Ridge Racer 3D but it's not as good and for it's time RR PSP was amazing. :shrug:
Fucking greedy stores in Mexico have it at 6000 pesos. That's 500 dollars. I wish there were a place where I could get it for 250 dollars down here. I've had a bad economic situation for the last years, but as of recently, 250 dollars is a somewhat attainable amount for me - at least on paper.
There aren't really any games that'd justify the price on 3DS at the moment; it seems to lack a killer app. The PSP launch line-up wasn't very good, but at least it had the awesome-looking Ridge Racer to make people talk about it (and Lumines was a great game, even though it wasn't exactly groundbreaking, the general concept was something that could've been done on Game Boy, except for the music). The so-called "hardcore" gamers will probably buy it, but IMO the casual market for handhelds is as good as dead. The kinds of games that people used to buy handhelds for, like puzzle games (Tetris etc.) and "games" like Nintendogs are stuff that people can play on their iPhones now. The only ones I could see buying a handhelds for those games are parents getting one for a little kid, and they're not gonna drop $250 on a handheld and $50 on a game.
Yeah, see, I seem to remember a lot of folks lamenting the lack of titles on the PSP for the first year, and then lamenting the lack of original titles as all people were buying were ports and remakes. In fact, when I worked for Gamestop two years or so after the PSP launched, there wasn't much worth owning on the system then. I think then it was mostly an emulation machine, and the big titles were a remake of Castlevania Rondo of Blood and a remake of FF: Tactics. My point still stands: The 3DS had a decent launch (I'm sorry, but Pilotwings Resort and Steel Diver and getting underrated as hell in reviews) and has a pretty damn good first year lined up for a modern handheld. In fact, I think the last time I actually had over 10 games for a system during its first 3 months was with the Dreamcast. Admittedly, the 3D effect compels me to buy more... so maybe in general I wouldn't have snagged Ridge Racer or Rayman.
UK first week sales are in. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426125 303,000 Europe: - 113,000 in UK - 50,000 in Germany Quote: Last week the firm announced that pre-orders alone stood at 140,000 and most pundits were pitching their sell-through estimates at between 150,000 to 200,000. It would seem, however, that some of the information being fed back to the manufacturer from retail was slightly wide of (or, in fact, over) the mark. The actual figure of 113,000 does still represent the company’s most successful hardware launch in the UK to date. The DSi managed 90,000 units while the Wii clocked up 106,000. It didn’t, however, break the PSP’s record of 185,000 – although this figure was achieved across four days rather than two. Good sales but not explosive sales. My point in my last post was I personally think the PSP launch was far better with some real classics in the bunch. 3DS personally I don't think has any classics in it's bunch (sad since I had huge hopes for steal diver) but on the flip side it's 2010 outlook is really promising and will more then make up for the poor lineup at launch.
Well, lets be honest here, the only handheld to launch with a "classic" in the truest sense of the word was the OG Gameboy, and that classic was Tetris. I somewhat doubt any of the PSP, DS, or 3DS launch titles will be particularly interesting 20 years down the road, but I would certainly pick up an OG Gameboy if a copy of Tetris was nearby. That said, I think the 3DS launch is getting awfully underrated. Pilotwings Resort is a great Pilotwings game, and is easily on equal or better footing than the previous titles. Steel Diver is also a great title, only maybe a little too late as I think it would have gotten a much warmer reception on the original DS when everybody and their Mom wanted to use the touch screen. Really, the only downside to the 3DS launch is Ubisoft. Those bastards totally phoned it in (except maybe for Ghost Recon Shadow Wars).
Pokemon is crack for children. They just need to released a 3DS only Pokemon game and all will be well.
I'd be willing to bet that Pokemon 3D and its 10 variations will hit a year from this holiday season.
Haha, that should be SF4! Ken's fiery shoryuken burning your nostril hairs! And there really isn't a Pokemon game yet? Strange, would have expected there to be one in the launch titles for sure. Not that I would ever buy it, but that would get them so many more 3DS purchases, what a strange move.... I loved pokemon cards when I was like 11,12, and a little bit of 13 (if I am remembering right). Only good Pokemon games were the Pokemon Stadiums.:evil:
That's just being anal on the definition of "Classic". Ridge Racer PSP was a very popular re-invention of the series and served as the basis for all renditions since then. Lumines was critically acclaimed and helped launch Q? Entertainment. Me personally i'm still looking forward to getting steel diver and i'm sad nintendo hasn't set a new date for it still (it got delayed due to the earthquake). Over all it seems both are good but are not really worth $40 asking price due to length and repetitive design in both. When doesn't ubi phone it in? Ghost recon really seems to be lucky this time around (it didn't look like it was even ubi's main PR focus but that doesn't surprise me, Ubi's PR department can be blind sometimes).
I saw one the other day at Target they actually had 2 there I dididn't get one as I did not have that much on me. But I did see the Demo Unit and considering I have Horrible vision (I'm nearly blind in my left eye) The 3d effect worked and looked alot better than movie 3d. I'll get one when the games start piling up. DOA Dementons is of interest to me, SSFIV 3d is and if they start doing 3d Shmups I'm all over it
No Pokemon,No Mario,No Zelda,No you name it. Not a single major Nintendo licence or Nintendo character. I appeciate the fact that Nintendo games are only released when they are ready to go but Nintendo should have been ready. Nintendo's strength has always been its 1st party software and it is hard to sell a new $250 upgraded system when they don't flex those muscles.
Its called Dream Trigger 3D and it comes out in a month or so. Look it up. Look, I love Lost Odyssey to death. I think it is hands down the best JRPG of the past decade or so. But I certainly don't consider it a classic. Same goes for various other games like Halo 3, Skies of Arcadia, and a bunch of other games. If things like Ridge Racer PSP or Lumines! or Lost Odyssey are classics, then what the hell are games like Super Mario Bros. 3, Final Fantasy VI, Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Radiant Silvergun, Mega Man 3, etc.? Sorry, to me the term "classic" has a very specific meaning. It has to be a game that transcends its time of release and stays great as time moves on. In terms of the value of Steel Diver and Pilotwings Resort: I've put about 12 hours into Pilotwings Resort so far. Last time I checked most dinky rink FPSs squeeze out about 10-15 hours of gameplay and then tack on more if you happen to like their online component, and those cost $60. Both games have great gameplay and give ample opportunity to improve upon one's score. Complaining about them being $40 is akin to IGN bitching about a 2D shooter going, "Well, you can play through it in like, an hour or so, but there's no online and no unlockables so its totally not worth it. 5.0/10" For the people saying that or bitching about SD and PR its like, "Well, you're kinda missing the fucking point.
I hate to be one to use Metacritic but Lost Odyssey [78] http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/lost-odyssey Ridge Racer [88] http://www.metacritic.com/game/psp/ridge-racer Lumines [89] http://www.metacritic.com/game/psp/lumines I've seen reports of people able to get through most of the game in under 3 hours on Pilot Wings. That's pretty damn short. As well with Steel Diver it's 7ish missions with the game forcing you to replay the first 5 (?) missions with each sub to unlock the 6th which is forced again to unlocked the 7th with missions not lasting more then a few mins. I wouldn't mind to buy Pilotwings Resort but after going over many of the reviews I just don't see enough to justify a $55-$60 price for me atm (Don't forget, I have a jpn unit and have to pay higher jpn prices + import markups). Steel diver I might bight my tounge since I've always been interested in it but I hope the long delay and low US scores will cause them to drop the price on it or try going back and adding more before it's release (generally I say fat chance but they still haven't set a new date for it and Pilotwings is still set for April 14th, if they were just going to push it out they could have set a new date in April already).
The Lost Odyssey remark was me referencing a personal favorite of mine that I don't consider a classic, not a game that was hailed by reviewers as a great game. And anyways, since you evoked metacritic, both of your PSP titles are sub 90% anyways, hardly a score befitting something I would consider a classic. And if someone can three-star all of Pilotwings in under 3 hours and find everything in free flight mode then they are a gaming god. Steel Diver on the other hand, is pretty short. I haven't put too much time into it and I'm about the unlock the final mission.
Yes it's expensive, but it's understandable. Nintendo need to recoup some of their initial R&D costs for this device. I can certainly afford it, but for now I choose not to. I'm hearing stories about flimsy hinges and crunchy analog sticks, so I'll sit tight for now.
Plenty of stock at the Costco I visited the other day, or at least it appeared so. They had some card thing you carried to the cashier and paid for. I'm assuming they were to send someone off to grab the thing from the back somewhere. I choose not to afford this, plus I have to pay for a guinea pig neutering on Monday. The biggest reason I'm not going to buy one quite yet? I have several dozen games on older platforms I still want to finish and thus have no reason to drop $250 big ones on something that has a remake of a game I finished back in the 90s. Though I wouldn't mind finishing it again.
