60 Hz switch question

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    Hi chaps,

    I've recently decided to add a 60 Hz switch to my Saturn (Model No. MK-80200A-50). I've had a search around and see that there are a few ways to connect up the switch, depending on models. Sadly my model does not have the SW4 connectors so I can discount one of the guides I've found.

    Having opened it up and got to the motherboard I can see that '171-7291B' and 'PC BD SATURN MAIN VA9' is printed on it. My question is: would this guide - http://djoen.dommel.be/Console/saturn/saturn-model2.html be the one I need to follow to achieve the 60 Hz switch or can you recommend another that suits my Saturn? Just thought I'd check before I jump in and potentially wreck my console by cutting tracks!

    Many thanks!

    Mike
     
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    Well, considering it says VA9 on that board, too.....
     
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    Ah good point, so the 'VA9' is the mobo revision then. It was the other numbers being different that threw me (171-7291B on mine vs 171-7291C in the pics). Will give this a go this evening.

    Cheers!
     
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    Druid II -

    That sounds like a nice method, I have attached a pic of the JP1 area on the motherboard of my Saturn. I can see that there is a track between one of the points of JP2 and JP1 (highlighted in red), should I cut the track highlighted in red once I have soldered my SPDT switch to the two points of JP1 - job done?
     

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    Apologies for turning this thread from a quick question into a full blown walk through! I have attached another image of the motherboard with some notation. Can I just confirm I'm on the right page -

    Red (common point) - expose copper track (not break the connection) so as I can solder wire from this point to contact B on my switch.

    Green/Blue - solder either of these points to contact A or C on my switch.


    Thanks again for putting up with my incessant questions!
     

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    Ok, so I soldered my switch in but now I get a scrambled image no matter which position the switch is in :confused: Attached is a pic of my soldering and a pic of what I get on my TV when the Saturn is running. The red line denotes where I broke the connection between JP2 and earth on the motherboard. Any idea as to what I've done wrong, please?
     

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    Damn! When I operate the switch there is a change in video output from the Saturn, in the other position I can almost make out the language selection screen (still heavily scrambled though) - so it's doing something. Out of curiosity, where should I have broken the JP2 contact and could I just re-break in the correct place and bridge the incorrect break with a bit of solder? Need to find my multimeter now.

    Thanks for your help so far!
     
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    Isn't that a 0 ohm resistor on JP2? In which case, surely you just take that off?

    I'm surprised you didn't follow the guide you linked to - it was the same model of Saturn and you had an "idiot sheet" laid out right in front of you!
     
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    Does this method allow proper RGB? I had to lift a leg on the GPU I believe. There's another point that allows the "new" video type to be composite only too, is the above that one?
     
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    Well, RGB. I recall one mod that had the console only being able to output composite when using the non native hz mode.
     
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    A quick update - I bridged the track that I incorrectly broke on my initial attempt at the 60 Hz mod and followed the guide I found originally. I now have a 50/60 Hz switchable Saturn! Many thanks for your help and for sticking with me through all my questions.

    Cheers!
     
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