A bad way to close a cd drive?

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  1. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    my little brother (who always try to find something wrong when everything's perfect) says i can actually broke a cd drive by closing it with a quick and little finger push on it, wich close the driver automaticly.

    is he right?

    *scrathing head smilley*


    Those philosophycal questions about the meaning of life are too confusing to be.

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  2. It's actually bad on the motor to close it that way... just use the close button! :smt043
     
  3. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    i wonder why people do close it manualy, its so much faster just to push the button then the drive plus it doesnt put a strain on thje motor.
     
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    XerdoPwerko Galaxy Angel Fanatic Extreme - Mediocre collector.

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    At least it's not being used like a beverage-holder / coaster, like in that customer tech-service urban legend.

    Now THAT would really be BAD for the drive!
     
  5. SilverBolt

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    I always close the cd-drives on my pc drive manually because it's down below my desk and i can't be bother to reach for the small buttons.
    I know it may do some harm but seeing as drives cost shit these days i don't mind.
    For my consoles i always use the button
     
  6. TheDeathcoaster

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    lol, I'm even lazier. I have open/close for my drive set as hotkeys on my keyboard :smt042
     
  7. Lazy it may be, but it's essentially the same as using the button on the drive - sending an electronic signal to open the tray. So as long as no harm's done, lazy is no problem. :smt023
     
  8. AntiPasta

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    Well, the electrical signal doesnt get sent instantaneous if you push the tray, first there is about a second of strain inflicted on the gears & belt which can't be good I think.
     
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    I can have that with my mac keyboard on windows xp. But i have to run some stupid little app and i refuse to do it! Wish i could map the key :-( I havent evn got print screen!

    But i do have a pretty keyboard!
     
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    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Anti is right, you put a strain on the gears. I've seen several drives buggered like this because they were pushed out of their alignment in the gears. Because of this, the drive wouldn't open, nor would using a pin in the hole work!!
     
  12. Lol, the drive tray is designed to be closed via both methods, so it matter's not in 'real terms'.

    ...After all 'the closing the tray with the finger method' still initiates a switch which pulls the tray in via the motor!

    ...In other words you end up with the damn near the same difference!


    The gears, pulleys, motors and belts are all over-designed to compensate for both methods of operation, plus a lot more abuse. The key to correct operation is to push the tray just enough to activate the switch and allow the motor to take over the final phase.

    ...Anyone who tries to ram the tray shut will of course break it!

    ...But that kinda person would probably bugger a switch as well!!!
     
  13. cahaz

    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    are you sure of this? well, that's good news, now i don't have to worry about all those finger pushing i did with my drives. i do this because my pc is below my desk, just like silverbolt, and it's easier this way. :smt045

    i usually don't push the cd tray on my consoles, but i can't say it never happened.
     
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    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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  16. Lol, you should ask the others why they wrote what they wrote, not me, I already know and explained the answer from an Engineering view point, after all I'm a Professional Engineer, not just of software, but the hardware as well. :smt023


    ...But hey! what would I know! (I'm being ironic now)

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    cahaz Guardian of the Forum

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    Oh! so you're really an old engineer ad it's not only a cool name?
    if i knew that earlier i wouldn't asked if you where sure of what you where saying then, srry mate! :-D

    thx again, now i can use the finger method without any fear. :smt082

    cahaz.
     
  18. Fonzie

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    In vast majority (i mean, i never saw the switch method on 1dvd and 1cd drive, maybe i'm "lucky") of cd drives its not a switch, it just a electrical tips:
    The board just mesure the output voltage generated by the motor.
    Since you push it, the motor turn and generate a few volts in output.
    The board see this volts and ask the main cd board to close the tray using the motor.

    Thats all. And yes, i confirm, all is 100% designed for that (even if its not recommended for the mecanic which can be a bit damaged if brutal push).
     
  19. AntiPasta

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    well, if you push it in the wrong way, i.e. the vector does not coincide with the direction of the tray, you might damage the rail/gears of the tray. It's made to move inward/outward, not downward.
     
  20. f_bohmann

    f_bohmann Rapidly Rising Member

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    i mostly do the push-the-tray method, and those drives that have failed were not failing because of the mechanics, but rather the lenses or lasers getting dusty/bad/borked or something. allthough this does not seem to be a problem, i wont do it on our devkits. i think the switch one the old sgi o2 drives does only open the drive, but wont close it, so you have to use "close drive" on the desktop or push the tray.

    well. in the end it's most probably a matter of how you want to treat your equipment.
     
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