"ACGC LOADER - INTERNAL ONLY" GC NR Disc

Ok, I have this for sale. Its maked "ACGC LOADER - INTERNAL ONLY" it wont boot on my PAL NR Reader and cant get it to work in anything else (retail gc, pc dvd etc) I have no real idea on the content, hopefully someone here can shed some light on it.





Up for sale none the less, No case included (was inside an NR Unit when found) but ive put it in a plastic sleave. No ideas on price so place offers here

 

maybe a file loader to boot files sent over the broadband port?

I am wondering if it's a ntsc disc and that is why you can't boot it.

 

Found inside a PAL drive im guessing though?

 

i google it. I think it might be a version of the Animal Crossing Gamecube Loader made into NR disc form.

 

yeah was in a PAL NR Unit, I thought about Animal Crossing but wasnt that just a "scene" way of booting iso's over a network? not like an offical nintendo kinda thing lol

 

Yeah it is a scene thing but the internal use makes me think it is from a 3rd party dev studio.

You would be suprised what we use (I use to code comercial ps1 software with an action replay dongle loaded with gold finger

http://www.finim.biz/usa/images/finim/psx_ac_m_z.jpg

As well most dev studios use flash linkers insted of nintendo's official stuff for gba development. It's just far cheaper.

 

Looking at the data burn area its strange that it hasn't been 'padded' to comply with .gcm standard.

...In other words there doesn't appear to be 1.4gb of data on the disc, just from looking at your piccy, which seems pretty clear.

...This may 'confuse' your NR reader when it tries to look at it, because it doesn't comply.

...Also there could be a slight risk that this may just be a 'faulty' disc m8

...At the moment I still can't make the connection with it being anything to do with the ACL, but hey, stranger things have happened at sea I guess.

...If you want me to test it for you at any stage, shoot me a PM.

Hope this helps.

 

It's probably a "homebrew" disk meant for someone to use their NR reader to do the exploit.

 

erm can you burn NR discs? Not that i know if u need a special burner or not...

 

As far as im aware they can only be burnt on an NR Writer...special dvd burner specially for burning these discs

 

yeah so its kinda unlikely its a homebrew disk isnt it?

 

Not really.

Plenty of developers at plenty of studios have access to burners and stacks of blank media. If one of them wanted to use NR Readers in place of more expensive T-DEVs something like the AC Loader would be perfect. And it would be a lot faster to burn it to a NR Disc than to try and burn a copy of the game and then load the exploit every time you wanted to use it.

The NR disc (if burned properly) would just boot and be ready for a code dump.

Of course, this is assuming that is what it is.

I would be very interested to see what happens if/when that disc boots on a NTSC NR Reader.


-hl718

 

Either I'm a bit dense at the moment or you guys are missing whats going on here?...

What does it exploit?

How does it exploit?

Why?


PSO executes the ACL exploit, ACL 'lives' as files on the P.C, not on a disc.

...Burning ACL to disc is erm, pointless imo.

...As I said before, I can't see the connection?

...Please point out how it would work.

 

With ACL burnd to a disc, They pretty much get to drop the whole PSO half. Also if I am not mistaken, I belive ACL is a tool so you can run any gamecube iso from your pc.

With simple tools, it's not hard to build out gcm files (mins the enormous space they consume).

Like I mention and someone else did. It's extreamly common for 3rd party studios to use hobbyist tools or software to make development cheaper. Buying a few $450 NR units is a far cry then spending $1k on NDP units or even more on a full dev box.

Interesting note. I remember a magazine having an interview with iguana over turok and in the picture they had a Doctor V64 in the background.

 

It's very very common to use 3rd party dev stuff. I use them, because they're mine and cheap. I don't have to use expensive NR Discs, because on gamecube you can now not only stream games via broadband, but even run them from DVD-Rs.

 

if i remember correctly, older loaders like the ACL do not initialise the BBA which means that it canot be used. they rely on PSO itself to boot up the BBA first so they can be loaded after with the BBA alredy prepped. newer loaders don't have this problem since they were coded to initialise it themselves so you eliminate the middleman (PSO). so i guess the ACL loader booted from disk would be useless.

 

Hard to jump and say it's worthless. From what I am told (not sure since i have not looked), there is already some samples and tools up to setup the BBA. So I would not be suprised if the disc already does all that. If this is a real disc (ie a burn that actualy works), it came from someone with access to a NR Burner which more then likly means they know enough on the gcn to make it work.

I my self am looking to dive into the hobbyist tools & sdk when I get the free time to make a all in one boot loader NR disc (to boot burns, comercial disc or accept files over the network). I do have access to all the needed stuff (burner & sdks).

 

Useless does not = worthless...

 

...Oh dear, you win I give up

 

...Ahhhh, someone who understands what I'm getting at, thank you.