Any game doctors out there?

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  1. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    I just visited a few sites and read some old materials and I compiled a list of video game systems I know of:
    In company alphabetical order:
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    3DO
    Panasonic FZ-1
    Panasonic FZ-10
    Goldstar 3DO
    Sanyo 3DO
    Creative 3d Blaster

    Amstrad
    Amstrad GX 4000

    Atari

    Atari 2600
    Atari 2600 DVS
    Atari 5200
    Atari 5200 4CP
    Atari 5200 2CP
    Atari 7800
    Atari Lynx
    Atari Jaguar
    Atari Jaguar CD


    Audiovision/Watara
    Supervision

    Bally
    Bally Astrocade

    Bit Corp
    Gamate

    Bandai
    Bandai Arcadia
    Bandai Playdia
    Bandai Pippin
    Wonderswan
    Wonderswan Color
    Swan Crystal

    Capcom
    Capcom Changer

    Casio
    PV-1000
    MSC SV-1000

    Coleco
    Colecovision

    Commodore
    Commodore 64GS
    Amiga CD32
    Amiga CDTV

    Creatonic, Timlex
    Mega duck

    D.I.S.C.
    DISCover

    Emerson tech
    Arcadia 2001
    Arcadia MPT-03

    Entex
    Adventurevision

    Fairchild Tee.
    Channel F
    Channel F 2

    Fujitsu
    Fm towns Marty

    Funtech
    Super A'Can

    Gamepark holdings inc.
    Gamepark 32

    General Consumer Electric/ Milton Bradley
    Vectrex

    Hartung, Impel, Videojet, Watara
    Game Master

    Mattel
    Aquarius
    Intellivision
    Intellivison 2
    Intellivision 3

    Microsoft
    Xbox

    NEC
    PC Engine
    Core Grafx
    CD-ROM²
    Core Grafx II
    Super CD-ROM²
    PC Engine GT
    PC Engine DUO
    Super Grafx
    PC Engine LT
    PC Engine DUO-R
    PC Engine DUO-RX
    PC-FX
    Turbo Graphx 16
    Turbo CD
    Turbo Duo
    Turbo Express

    Nintendo
    Famicom
    Famicom 2
    Famicom Disk System
    Super Famicom
    Sharp twin Famicom
    N64 DD
    Super Famicom Jr.
    NES
    NES 2
    Super NES
    Super NES JR.
    Nintendo 64
    Nintendo Gamecube
    Virtual boy
    Game Boy
    Game boy pocket
    Game Boy Advance
    Game Boy Advance sp.
    Game Boy Color
    Nintendo DS

    Nokia
    N-gage
    N-gage QD

    Phillips Magnavox
    Odyssey
    Odyssey 2
    450 Cd-I player
    550 Cd-I player

    Pioneer
    Pioneer LaserActive

    RCA
    RCA studio 2

    Sega
    SG-1000
    Sega Master System
    Sega Mark III plus variants
    Sega Genesis
    Sega Genesis 2
    Sega Genesis 3
    Sega CD
    Sega CD 2
    Sega 32X
    Sega cdx
    Sega Saturn
    Sega Dreamcast
    Sega Game Gear
    Sega Nomad
    Mega Drive
    Mega Cd
    Mega Cd 2
    Mega Cdx
    Wondermega
    Megajet
    Multimega
    Super 32x
    JVC X'EYE

    SNK
    Neo-Geo
    Neo-Geo CD
    Neo-Geo Pocket
    Neo-Geo Pocket Color

    Sony
    PSone
    Ps2 two
    Playstation
    Playstation 2
    PSP
    PSX

    Tapwave
    Zodiac Tapwave

    Tiger
    Game.com
    Game.com pro

    Vtech
    Creativision
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    This list came from help by Vgmuseum and help from AWS, edit: and you guys, too.
    EDIT:
    Edit #3.
    Thanks

    Which of these are computers? Im going to delete these from the list, and Im also going to only show the Japanese and American Variations of a game system, too.
    :smt023
     
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  2. ASSEMbler

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  3. XerdoPwerko

    XerdoPwerko Galaxy Angel Fanatic Extreme - Mediocre collector.

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    The Aquarius is also by Mattel, like the Intellivision. The GameAxe is not a Nintendo console, though it is a famiclone. FM Towns Marty is made by Fujitsu, isn't it? I don't recall, I guess.
    PC98 was a PC originally made by NEC as a productivity machine. Supervision was made by Audiovision / Wataru. X68K is a Sharp computer, and the MSX was made by various companies, though the standard was started by Sony, I think.

    I hope this helps.
     
  4. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    Some random thoughts...

    3DOs....

    You should probably include the Creative 3DO Blaster that goes into a PC to play 3DO games...

    Atari...

    There are Two Models of the Lynx...
    As for 2600 models, theres the VCS/2600 (Most Commonly seen as a woody), but theres also black ones...and the 2600jr which looks more like the 5200 and 7800...I have no clue what "DVS" is.

    Casio...

    I'm not sure if one of those models refers to the "Loopy" but if they don't, you're missing it.

    Commodore...
    All those except for the 64GS and the CD32 are really computers. You're also forgetting CDTV.

    NEC...

    You're forgetting PC-FX!!!

    Nintendo...

    You've got Super Famicom on there twice...and Game Axe DEFINATELY wasn't made by nintendo.

    Sega...

    You look pretty solid here...except theres probably some Official type Brazillian SMS and Genesis stuff you're missing. One of our Brazilian members (ie: Johnny) might be able to help you there.

    Phillips...

    Odyssey isn't really a game console as it doesn't take cartridges with game code on them...you are missing Odyssey 2 though.

    The other random stuff...

    MSX...it's a computer standard...lots of people made them...theres also (Korean?) consoles based off them...what are they called...Zemmix?

    Theres something called the APF 1000, which can be found easily with a simple GIS

    JVC X'EYE is the US version of Wondermega 2, the Combined Sega CD/Genesis...then you gotta inlude Wondermega too...Some members here have them (ie: Yakumo....Wondermega 1, right?) they can tell you more about them.

    CPS Changer...you call that Capcom Changer...that plays CPS1 arcade games....it's like a fancy supergun...it's a home version of Capcom's CPS1 arcade games...somebody can probably explain this better than me too.

    Pioneer Laseractive...of course made by Pioneer...that's a funny thing...it can play it's own LD games...with the help of the NEC and SEGA PACS...which play pc engine and genesis games respectively.

    N-Gage....is made by Nokia...and there is an N-gage 2 now...also

    X6800...that's a computer...a neat one...but striketh it from the list.

    Ah...you're also forgetting Funtech's Super A'Can

    Then theres also Game King

    You gotta watch out what you call a video game system.
    We had a thread about what makes a video game system...and what are the video game systems ages ago...

    I believe we decided...

    It can't have a keyboard as it's primary imput device (odyssey 2 aint no computer)
    It must take a medium with game code on it...
    It's NOT a clone.

    Oh...random systems I'm thinking of...

    Epoch casettevision (that's one, isn't it?)

    A good reference is our own Hawanja's www.hawanja.com it's the best list of game consoles I can think of. Once again, I gotta say, Great site, Hawanja!

    You also gotta watch how you handle hardware variations.
    You include Genesis, and Megadrive...theres two versions of Megadrive...JP and Europe...same name...but slightly different output...

    It doesn't work when you include Sega CD 1 and 2 and CDX, but only one instance of Mega CD...

    Decide how you want to organize this list...

    Oh...and Pippin is called Pippin@Mark in Japan and Pippin@world in the US...

    Edit: And yes....FM Towns Marty is made by Fujistu, XerdoPwerko...Theres two versions of it too...one with a 386 another with a 486.

    Sorry if I repeated you, this took me awhile...

    OH! and theres the Japanese 2600...the 2800...which came out in the US through sears...as Sears Personal arcade II or something like that...

    So crazy...you gotta consider if you want to inlude hardware variations...so much fun!
     
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  5. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    what about that n64 sold in china? some controler..
     
  6. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    Oh yeah! Nintendo iQue! The N64 in a controller!
     
  7. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Okay, thanks.

    I need to ask AWS about this...

    I need to check with him, again...

    Okay, thanks for helping me.

    Damn! I put it in, but I guess I erased it or something when I was editing the list.

    I dont want the list to be clones and Dev. systems, so Im going to delete the game axe from the list, and the extra Super Famicom...

    I could have put the Neptune on here, as well as the many faces of the Dreamcast, but I would meet the 10,000 character per post limit. :-D


    Okay...

    Okay, im going to edit the list with this in mind.

    This stuff is going on my site, but im gonna keep it for all the cool games that came out for it. Cho-ren-sha 68K is damn fun.

    :no
    How could I have forgotten that?

    From Funtech?
    Thanks for all your help!
     
  8. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    I want to try to keep this mostly American and Japanese. I have a pretty ambitious project ahead of me, and I dont need 50 different country variations of 1 system, please. The Nintendo iQue! sounds like a clone, anyway.
    Once I get a pretty solid list, im going to find the games for them, and put profiles of the games on my site. I have nothing better to do, so Im focusing all my energies to this website. Its gonna kick ass, if I get it completed, the way I envision it.
     
  9. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    The Game King is made by Time Top (www.timetopcn.com) It's a handheld out of China.

    I don't know what there is to ask of AWS...about Atari...

    There are two Lynxes (1 has a crappy paint job, and a shorter battery life, 2 looks a lot cooler, and has the ability to turn off the backlight)

    ...and there are two main hardware variations of 2600 (The Atari VCS [Woodies and Vaders], and 2600Jr)

    Ah, that reminds me. You really gotta strike those Atari Computers from that list. They're not consoles...but you would have to add the Atari XE...which can function as a computer, but it is not one. Add it to you list.

    As for the 5200s...I don't know why you're listing the two versions with the different numbers of controller ports...as if you do that, you might as well mention the early (84?) 7800s and also the later ones without the expansion ports.

    With regards to the iQue being a clone: It's hard for a company to clone it's own hardware. It owns it. iQue is not a straight up N64 clone. It plays games off a flash card, and i believe it has the ability to play SNES games off that card as well.

    If you're going to call that a clone, you might as well call X'EYE, Wondermega, Laseractive Sega PAC, Genesis 2, Genesis 3, CDX, Nomad, and anything else I'm forgetting clones of Genesis 1.

    Oh, speaking of clones, Coleco Gemini is just a 2600 clone.

    Read my last post again...theres some things you missed...

    Then again....you're free to create your list however you want it, but I think the only way to do it right is to set rules, and work within them.

    Edit: Theres no such thing as a "Mega 32x" it's called "MultiMega"
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  10. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    You need to add two new items to the Sega section

    Wondermega (Made by Sega and Victor/JVC)
    Megajet (portable megadive with no screen) made by Sega

    Yakumo
     
  11. Zilog Jones

    Zilog Jones Familiar Face

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    Sorry to be really anal, but it's Mega Jet, and it's a Tomy Pyuuta (not "Pyu-ta" - that's a really dodgy way of romanising things).

    And if you want to include home computer systems that did have loads of good games on them, I think you should have a separate list for them - having a few computers in a list of consoles is a bit confusing.

    I don't think that was the actual name for it - from the boxes I've seen it's still just a "Family Computer", though some like to call it the Famicom A/V.
    Should be "LaserActive"

    Should be roman numeral II, and as Blur2040 said there's all Tec-Toy's variants of Sega consoles that were sold in Brazil and there's the other Japan and European variants you're missing like the Mega Drive 2, Multi Mega (Euro CDX), Victor Wondermega, all the Saturn variants, etc. Maybe you should put the variants made by Victor (JVC) and Hitachi in their own categories? Don't have to though.

    NOooooooo! The MSX was a home computer system standard made up by ASCII and Microsoft (though MS dropped out of the venture around 1985/6, and didn't really do much besides making the BASIC interpreter and MSX-DOS). The people behind the standard are now known as the MSX Association. Sony was just one of the many electronics manufacturers of the systems, and didn't have any bigger part in the format than Matsushita (Panasonic/National) or any of the other companies who made MSXs. There's a list of all the MSX hardware here, but it'd be a pain in the ass listing all the computers on your list. I suggest putting MSX in a category of its own, called "MSX" (I wouldn't categorise it under ASCII and/or MS if I were you), and just list the different standards:
    MSX
    MSX2
    MSX2+
    MSX turboR

    Again, there's no real standard name for the new model. Judging by the boxes I'd say they're the "PlayStation2 two", but that's just silly.

    Amstrad's a company, who made computers. Noteable systems games-wise would be the Amstrad CPC, and - of course - the Mega PC (a 386 PC with built-in Mega Drive).
    Well, Bally's obviously the company. They made arcade games and pinball tables and stuff.
    Again, a home computer. Company was Dragon. AFAIK it originated from the UK. There was also a Dragon64.
    Made by General Consumer Electric (GCE), though Milton-Bradley has something to do with them too. There was also a Japanese variant.
    Made by Sinclair. Again, a home computer system. Here's the different models I know of:

    ZX Spectrum (16K RAM)
    ZX Spectrum (48K RAM)
    ZX Spectrum 128
    ZX Spectrum+
    ZX Spectrum+2
    ZX Spectrum+3

    There was also the +2A and +2B, but they only differed internally and by the printing underneath the system.
    Watara, I think. There were many variants of that too, including the QuickShot something-or-other. Damn, forgot the name -_-
     
  12. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Nice list, it must have taken some time to compile. Too bad the majority of the feedback you're going to get is people telling you you're wrong ;)
    Seriously though, good going.

    The thing is, if you include the X68K because it had good games, your list isn't about consoles. The X68K is not a console, end of story ;)
    Also if you include it why not include the BBC Micro? Loads of good games released for that, some very influencial ones too. When you accept one computer you have to accept the rest, if you want your list to be in any way definitive, and the list of computers with videogames on them would be absolutely enormous. If you say the list is for videogame hardware, regardless of form, what gets included will end up quite subjective - at what point does a computer become videogame hardware?

    I'd put "Sega Mark III plus variants", since the Mark III was the first revision of Master System hardware to be released. I'd be inclined to do this with all hardware that is a repackage of previous hardware, ie Megadrive 2, Nes 2 etc. Something like the Laseractive is a different story though, since the internal hardware is quite different and has been added to.

    Amstrad, most of them are computers and so you probably don't want to include them., the notable exception being the GX4000. The company name is Amstrad, btw.

    Since we're nitpicking, that's PC Engine Super GrafX, though I'd just call it the NEC Super Grafx I suppose...
     
  13. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    I'm gonna have to wait until Mr. Casual comments on this again.

    What are the aims of this list...are you going to do anything with it?
     
  14. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    Ooooh nitpicking. I'd do "AV Famicom" which is what the box says despite the clear "Family Computer"

    If you're going to include every region of every console... include the Sega "Super 32X"

    Actually the SuperGrafx is NEC SuperGrafx, says PC Engine on the box but there is no suggestion that the title is "PC Engine Super Grafx". There is no hyphen between PC Engine either.

    You should do the list chronologically IMO. e.g:

    PC Engine
    Core Grafx
    CD-ROM²
    Core Grafx II
    Super CD-ROM²
    PC Engine GT
    PC Engine DUO
    Super Grafx
    PC Engine LT
    PC Engine DUO-R
    PC Engine DUO-RX
    PC-FX

    (not sure if order is correct but that's my guess) also you should decide whether or not to do "CoreGrafx" instead of Core Grafx, I prefer them concatinated.
     
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  15. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Adventurevision - Entex
    Amstrad - I assume you mean the Amstrad GX 4000? The company is called Amstrad
    Bally Astrocade - Bally (as in Bally/Midway)
    Creativision- Vtech
    DISCover - Digital Interactive Systems Corporation (D.I.S.C.)
    Vectrex - Milton Bradley
    Zodiac tapwave - Tapwave
    ZX Spectrum - Sinclair
    Gamepark 32 - Gamepark holdings inc.
    Gamate - Bit Corp
    Game Master - Hartung, Impel, Videojet, Watara
    Supervision - Hartung, Videojet, Goldnation, Watara, possibly more
    Cougar boy- Same thing as Megaduck, released in Brazil by a company called Cougar
    Mega duck - Creatonic, Timlex
    RCA studio 2 - RCA
     
  16. WolverineDK

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    the Z80 and the ZX81 plus the Lambda (a ZX81 "clone")
     
  17. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Okay, I think im going to can the country variation part of my list, Except for Japan, as well as computers.
     
  18. Zilog Jones

    Zilog Jones Familiar Face

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    These are computers (might be missing a few):
    Also, what are your plans exactly with this list? Are you going to have pictures/info about each specific model or what? Also, you could be losing out on a lot of potential viewers if you don't include European variants - even if you just list the names of what the Japanese systems were called here it'll be something, at least. And you seem to have a few European-only consoles there anyway (C64GS, Amstrad dealy).
     
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  19. the_steadster

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    what does the 3DO blaster count as if we aren't including computers? its neither a console nor a computer to me..
     
  20. Zilog Jones

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    It's kinda inbetween the two, like the Amstrad Mega PC and Sega Teradrive. Though it's based on a console and plays console games, so IMO you should keep it, along with the two I just mentioned there.
     
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