Anyone else dislike/hate/rage digital only downloads?

If you remember your steam id then you can download the game as many times as you like with a disc you get one serial (usually). Lets just say the head of your hdd crashes you have to buy another. If you lose your id its real easy to obtain it again.

 

A company folds and they will graciously unlock authentication to all their games? I would not bet on that. Even some game discs need an initial online connection just to boot up! This is becoming common on console discs too even for offline game play. Online support is not forever let alone five years in this fast moving upgrade changing gaming environment.
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Good luck getting patch support longer than needed for PR reasons either. Hailed as it is, even Crysis dropped that like six months or something.

 

Yeah i've gone through this.
I HATE IT.
Not only are they giving Physical the middle finger they are doing everything they can to reduce the cost of a quality case so they are making even MORE money off of us!
I bought Vesperia new on Amazon.com just to have it come with a hole in part of the cover because of the "Eco-case"

ALSO: If you are looking for good sturdy cases for older games(they say they mainly only want to do older games, like DC/GBA and everything before)
check out this
http://www.gamecaseworld.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=40
They aren't terribly expensive and it costs about 25$ or somethin' to get a custom made one.
They aren't all 100% perfect(little typo's and a few QA inconsistencies and some that are flat out not so good, but not bad for only a 2 person crew) but they are pretty rad.
They also have an ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/game-case-world/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3692


I can't wait to see what it's going to be like 10 years from now.

I wish we could just go back to how DLC was done RIGHT.
Expansion Packs motherfuckers.
Spend the time to properly finish the game's development instead of half assing it because "it cost too much money to make AAA games!" wah wah wah. All they really want is bigger profit margins, it's not enough to make any profit or just break even to cover the cost.
So the user ends up getting screwed.

Yeah Ubisoft for example drops support for most titles AFIK after 6 months, people still have issues. But they don't give a fuck.

Crytek is done with Crysis 2 and they aren't doing anymore bug fixes apparently (The MP is still horribly broken in a billion ways, which is a shame because it was one of my favorite MP games of all time until I had enough of the bullshit)
Once they got DX11 and medium resolution textures out the door they were like "LOL SEEYA"

 

Honestly, I trust Valve/Steam. They aren't a particuarly douchy company like EA, I also think that it wouldnt be difficult for someone to release a No steam crack or something. Multiple torrent scene groups have done it already.

 

If steam goes under anything not made by valve that you bought from them will disappear from your collection/be rendered unusable

Valve can remove the DRM on your copy of Portal, but they cant do shit about the games from other companies you bought there. Fucking retarded indeed, DRM doesnt do shit these days, you can find pirated games before launch that are already cracked.

Best thing companies could do its a one-time validation of your game copy and thats it, if they die in a zombie attack you can still play your games forever.

But if you want to blame anyone for this blame the iphone and android: nobody cared about downloads until the appstore, now a game thats over $5 its "too expensive", unless it is the latest Duty Call...

The amount of SHIT I have to hear from phonetards about consoles its amazing, but shit, they are outnumbering us! No prob tho, game companies are in this for the community, not money...

NOT!



If the PSV fails as most phonetards want it to do (fuckers are literally fapping to this idea) then all game companies will move to this platform agnostic, crap appgame, freeplay-but-you-have-to-pay-for-every-item shit in no time.

 

I dislike digital copies immensely. Never had to use Steam and now that I know what it involves I never will.
At least GOG games can be played offline. Still I prefer a physical copy any day.

 

I bought the retail version of Sonic Generations, a version which is only availble here in the EU. It was in the sale for £10, bargain I thought, a little cheaper than what I'd seen of the Steam version (excluding sale prices). I thought I would also be able to avoid having to wait a day for the title to download on my shitty 256KB max speed connection.

Well basically the DVD is just a bloody splash screen, it then sends you to Steam where you must input the included code to download the bloody thing! I now have to wait 5 hours to play it!

I've checked inside the DVD as well through windows explorer and there does appear to be some large game related files inside. Yet I have to download it?! What an absoloute joke. Regarding the whole Steam debate, I can see both sides of the argument, but at the end of the day I bought the DVD for the express purposes of AVOIDING downloading it!

 

For full and games, I prefer physical media.

For smaller and more casual stuff (ie: XBOX LIVE ARCADE stuff), I don't mind the digital only distirbution method. In fact, I kind of like having the instant gratification, lack of disc to store and load in the console, etc

I don't really like this STEAM distribution method, so I choose not to support it.

 

I bought Portal from a store. Paid 30USD for the game only because I did not want the spyware called 'Steam'.
(http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey) Hardcore invasion of privacy. Who would choose to install such an invasive program?

I put the DVD into my computer and what did it say?
'Install Steam to continue.'
I was unable to return the game and my strongly worded emails to valve went unanswered.

I hate Steam, Valve and any company that associates with them. Why sell the DVD in the store if you are just going to force me to install your e-colonoscopy?

I am still incredibly mad about it.

Short answer: I hate digital downloads for new games. I am okay with digital downloads for indie games or re-releases, but not for big name games.

(I pirated Portal and Portal 2. Great games.)

 

Steam has made me an honest PC gamer. In less than a year I went from only having Portal (it was free for a limited time to entice people to adopt the plataform) to owning more than 100 games on it. It's quick, cheap, easy to use and with a lot of content. Beats the crap out of piracy. If you like something, wait until it's a daily deal or one of the season sales and odds are you will get at it 50% off or more. Those indie bundles help a lot, too. Coordinating a game with other players is a snap.

I think it's silly to worry too much about apocalyptic scenarios. It sounds like pretending that the future won't be disc-less at all, because guys, that's where we are going. We have no choice on that, and you can only hope that the plataforms that remain are friendly and affordable, like Steam and not awful, like EA Origin, a service where if they ban you from the forums you loose your games (Steam forums are separate from Steam accounts).

I mean, look at Nintendo. The WORST digital download service of all in the console arena. No one should take Nintendo as the example of what a digital download service should be. Downloads tied to a console, no demos (WTF?) and no discounts or promotions. Nintendo treats it's virtual console like it was a regular store when they had a monopoly in the 80s.

So let's pretend for a moment that somehow Valve shuts down Steam. They promised to unlock all of the games, and if that doesn't happen...do you think software pirates or coders with some free time won't find a way? Don't be naive.

Also, you guys know that you can play steam games offline, right? Just save your login info and the next time you use it you can use offline mode. I personally never save any password for anything I use, so if my laptop is stolen on my way home I can still keep my account, save games in the cloud and personal info intact. But it's there if you want.

 

Don't forget that you're basically paying for emulated ROMs with no extras. Games on XBLA and PSN have, at the very least, online leaderboards. And the prices are ridiculous too: $5 for one NES game? $10 for an SNES game? Come the fuck on.

 

Pretty much this.

Also, you bought the game. It's yours to legally manipulate loosely with the law to play it your way. :nod:

 

most company want digital distribution because it kills the USED market
you CANT return a digital game and you CANT trade a digital game

so basically no refund and no resale value

hell some company's are requiring buyers of used games to pay 10 bucks to get access to online -.-'

i like digital copy's mostly because i dont have to change disks or cartages

i buy the games PS2 is my console of choice right now and after i have bought the game i rip it on my fat v7 PS2 with FMCB

i own less then 10 games right now

family guy,ghost busters,code veronica X,gran turismo 3 gran turismo 4,toy story 3, agent under fire,aqua teen hunger force zombie ninja pro am

all bought from game stop sadly im moving twords buying from amazon

 

Are you kidding me?
Nintendo has been a mostly GREAT provider of DDL games.
I'd rather have a solid Emulated near perfect version of a game than a botched port.

Online Leaderboards?
Who gives a fuck about something menial and stupid like that?

5$ is a Good price for NES games, what do you want to pay 50 cents?

Most games are worth way more than 5$.

And it's a good LEGAL way to purchase games that are out of print/no longer being sold and the money goes back to the developers AFIK.


If you think that Nintendo is Teh suck because they aren't catering to your every whim and don't offer x amount of whatever the fuck you want. Doesn't mean they are bad and/or doing bad.
It means you are insane.


And last time I checked, the 3DS sold over 6 million units in a 9 month period in 2011, as well they've probably made way more money this generation than Microsoft or Sony(considering they've sold nearly the amount of PS3's and 360's combined, and then add in the fact that the Wii hardware is basically a gamecube). Not that they (S&MS)aren't successful. Saying Nintendo is a failure, or is failing is just plain stupid.

 

Yeah, I completely failed to mention the games on the European VC are shitty 50hz versions, even though there's no reason not to put the superior version up since they're running on an emulator. My bad. Certainly worth paying money for this great quality of emulation.

They do add replay value, at least for me. Many XBLA/PSN releases also have online play. What do you get with Nintendo's releases that cost the same? Oh wait, nothing.

Around $1 would be a good price. Maybe I'm spoiled by Steam prices, but it seems ridiculous to pay $5 for a game that's a few kilobytes large and almost 30 years old, when you can get Half-Life 2 for less than the price of two NES games on VC (even less than that if there's a sale).

 

Seems that's a main thing. But also because of these physical releases which forcing you to install Steam and download game via internet (which is already idiotic decision), with all this fuckin' Securom, etc. - it just makes piracy grow A LOT.
Fuck, there's 90s/early 2000s with just "Insert your CD"...

 

So what is everyone's thoughts on digital download movies?
Personally I like them...one thing I dislike more is clutter. And DVD disc cases do not age well...having shelves of them is pretty unsightly and wasteful. I mean, how many goddamn times does someone buy a movie and watch it more than 2 or 3 times anyway?

 

well im not sold on digital only movies ether

i wanna be able to own the movie and if i fall on hard times just pawn
my entire movie collection issue solved

 

Agreed. A dollar each would make way more sense, specially in a market where an emulated PSOne game costs 5 dollars and works on the PSP and PS3. It's not logical to try to sell a single NES game at 5 bucks when any person with google and a torrent client can get the entire library for all regions in about 5 minutes. Now both the Wii and the 3DS should have access to the same games, and let the costumer decide for which plataform. Sony already does this, so it's not imposible or unreasonable.

Also, the choice of games leaves a lot to be desired. Nintendo handles things on their store like it was the 80s: releasing only very few titles, so if you are looking for something new to buy that week, you feel more inclined to buy the crap they have selected. When Zelda was released on the Virtual console, it was the only Virtual Console release of the week, just like Nintendo used to do to third party publishers on the NES era ("oops, chips shortage, no 3rd party games this week. BUT CHECK OUT OUR NINTENDO DEVELOPED TITLE DEBUTING THIS WEEK INSTEAD!")

Also, no demos for Virtual Console titles, because you might play them for a minute or two and realize that you just wanted some nostalgia and might not commit to a purchase.

Nintendo's system does not exist in a vacuum. It's easy to see that they are missing really basic things that the rest (PSN, Xbox Live, Steam or even the iOS app store) do quite well, and that is hard to go back and use a service that lacks those features. This isn't about just saying that Nintendo sucks, it's about how much some us would like to give Nintendo our hard earned money if only they made an effort to catch up with the rest of the competition.