Archival of Disk Images

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  1. ianoid

    ianoid Spirited Member

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    I have a bunch of betas that may or may not be unique. In any case, I fear for the death of them in the long term, and I would like to make sure that I have disk images of them now. What is the best way to archive these? Iso files or bin files or what? I am using ImgBurn now, but I'm open to recommendations.

    Thanks, ian
     
  2. drx

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    There are basically 3 levels of data on a disc.

    1. The files (2048 bytes per sector)
    2. The error correction data (additional 304 bytes per sector; audio tracks use this space instead of having error correction.
    3. Subchannel data (almost never used in the past, now some copy protection mechanisms rely on it).

    1 alone is equivalent to a standard .iso file and is considered not so great (mostly because most .iso dumps are done badly; but also because it's not strictly a 1:1 disc dump).

    1+2 is a BIN/CUE dump, which I've been doing for all my discs for a while now. Properly done, this ensures archival of all data.

    1+2+3 is done in a format has .img, .ccd and .sub (for the subchannel data). I only use this when it's necessary.

    For BIN/CUE's, there are some programs, of which the most highly regarded are CDRWin (which I use on Windows) and CloneCD (I think). On Linux/Unix, you can use cdrdao (let me know and I'll explain how).

    For the third method, there's only CloneCD I think, right now.

    Now choosing the proper format is only half the work. You have to watch out for some things:

    * DON'T use error correcting mechanisms when dumping
    * try to dump at low speeds (1-4x), especially audio tracks
    * do several dumps and see if they match (preferably on different drives, I do three different dumps and compare them; I have some tools I wrote to compare dumps and "choose" the best one, but there's some manual work involved I'm afraid)
    * use very good CD/DVD drives with good lasers and good error benchmarks (otherwise you'll get a lot of wrong reads)

    Then there's audio tracks. I usually dump them with EAC (Exact Audio Copy), which is superb at dumping audio tracks (it has some algorithms that make sure it's a good dump). But again, there's some manual work involved.

    Thinking about it, this is a lot work... I should really think about coding a set of tools to automate all of this. Dumping CD protos is a nightmare (old CD-R's... aaaaaaah)

    Hope that helps.
     
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    ianoid Spirited Member

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    I really appreciate all the information. Unfortunately, I'm a far better collector than I am a technical guy, so I need something quick and dirty and relatively reliable. I'll start using CloneCD ongoing, though. If something more automated comes along, I'd love to use it.
     
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    Twilight pointed me to this URL:
    http://www.redump.org/

    The instructions are a bit intense given my ability to commit to major projects. I pretty much plan to use CloneCD unless I can get some other simple approach together. I was proud enough to be making ISOs, but it looks like I'll have to redo most of those. I could test the ISOs, but I doubt I could challenge ever bit.

    Note that I am talking about Beta discs, not final burns, stuff meant to play on a debug unit.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    very insightful. Always good to read good advice. An application handling the matter in the structure you followed in your post would be a great tool for anyone wanting to archive disk images. Who knows, there might even be a market for it!
     
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