Are the PS3 component cables "region-ed"?

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  1. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    So, consoles will often have cables that differ from PAL to NTSC regions. They usually require a different set of components on the inside to get the correct brightness level and stuff. It's true for the SNES and Sega Saturn, but what about the PS3's component cables? I'm looking to get some for my PAL PS2, but if I brought some from an NTSC region, I'm not sure if they would look correct for me. Does anyone know? Google isn't tell me much.
     
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    They are region free. I am using a NTSC original PS2/PS3 cable perfectly on both of my PAL PS2 consoles.
     
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    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Well, I'm not really talking about if they prevent cables being used on consoles from outside that region, but if the brightness and the like is messed up if you use an NTSC cables on a PAL console and vice-versa as it is with other consoles.
     
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    No it is not messed up. I know what i am talking about.
     
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    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Cool, thanks for the tip!

    Out of curiosity, why do some companies make their construction of their cables different from region to region? Is there really that much profit to be made from region-locking accessories? And in that case, why wouldn't they prevent the cables from being used entirely, like controllers and cartridges, instead of them being usable, but with incorrect brightness?
     
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    Snes - RGB cables were not sold in the US.
    Saturn - Japan needs different connections than PAL RGB. Pal consoles need power for scart switching, which the US didnt.

    There are generally reasons on the video cables, rather than just for the sake of it.
     
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    I never understood the point behind region-locking. Accessory locking is even worse than game locking.

    Nintendo is worse than sony for this aspect. For example you can never get a PAL signal from a NTSC n64 (or SNES), and vice versa. But for PS1 and PS2, region locking is done on the software side. You can get both PAL and NTSC video output from both region consoles (if you softmod or hardmod first)

    I was very happy upon hearing PS3 games will be region-free. And then they locked DLCs.

    I know there is some necessity because of different laws and different tax policies of different countries, but there should be an easier way than simple region-locking.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    A console not displaying a mode it doesnt need to use in the country it was sold isnt "region locking"

    Intentionally making games not work - region lock
    Intentionally making pads not work (snes!) - region lock

    But hardware only displaying what its supposed to display in the place it was sold - come on.

    Thats like saying because a PSU in a US console is only 110v rather than 110-250v its "region locked"
     
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    It is not very hard to put an additional crystal for both supporting PAL and NTSC. I mean how much does it cost? It could even save them some pennies as hardwarewise all consoles would be the same. They would only be flashed different bios.

    and about PSU, nearly all new consoles have 110-250v. So game companies (and electronics manufacturers) began to understand people tend to use equipment where they can use worldwide without thinking about stupid restrictions.

    "region locked" or not, i don't care very much at what it exactly means. What i want is, i want to buy a console anywhere in the world, buy accessories, games anywhere in the world and use them anywhere in the world. Of course i will have to plug a converter for charger, this isn't a thing "nintendo" or other companies can easily solve, but for other region related problems, they are not hard to solve.
     
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    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    RGB doesn't require a crystal though doesn't it? You'd think in this case, RGB would be RGB, regardless of where you come from. Clearly it's not, as I've had to track down the right RGB SCART cable (NTSC or PAL) for my consoles, but that's probably some strange technical limitation as Bad_Ad said.
     
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    Yeah as you said RGB doesn't even need a crystal but PAL and NTSC SNES,N64,Gamecube has different hardware in it, requiring different cables. Gamecube NTSC doesn't even have RGB.

    for s-video and composite you need different color carriers. SECAM,PAL,NTSC,PAL-M etc.
     
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    On the specific case of the PlayStation product line, the component and RGB cables are identical across all regions.

    What changes is whatever you have on the tip that goes to the TV. And that's only if you're talking RGB cables.


    About Component cables, it's extremely unlikely you will ever find a D-Terminal (japanese style component connector with binary ID resolution information built in) outside of Japan so you're safe about that. The same standard component cable will work with any PS2/PS3 product. Same apply to S-Video and standard CVBS cables.
     
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    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Thanks for the tip l_oliveira! Gonna go pick myself up a set of official Sony PS3 cables to replace the cheap, noisy crap I currently have for my PS2 :D
     
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    game wise the PS3 ISNT region free there are some PS3 games that are region locked sony provides the tools in software to do such a thing
    found out from the PS3 fiasco also the PS3 backwords compatable vershion WONt play PS2 titles from other regions and NO PS3 allows PS1 games from other regions

    and on the movie side most BLU-RAY movies are region free
    BUT there are 3 regions in blueray instead of the 8 in DVD ABC A: USA/JPN/CAN/SA B: EUROPE/UK/ME/AU C: CHINA/RUSSIA/ASIA

    so yah the PS3 really isnt region free in any shape or form
     
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    That's the exception. Mainly SNES and Saturn.

    Megadrive, Master System, Dreamcast, or PS1/PS2 didn't do that.
     
  16. reprep

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    @angelwolf71885: Isn't it one or two games that aren't region free on PS3? They hit the shelves in 2012 if i am not wrong. A good google search can find the results and i will edit this post when i do it.

    and i know that the previous generations' region restrictions appy too. I am not a fan boy or anything. Sony is more user-friendly than Nintendo about "region-ed" gaming. This doesn't change the fact that all big corporations are evil.
     
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