Are these any good?

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  1. blackzc

    blackzc Spirited Member

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  2. XerdoPwerko

    XerdoPwerko Galaxy Angel Fanatic Extreme - Mediocre collector.

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    I think I saw a similar unit in my local Radio Shack.
    I sort of remember it being worth around 50 bucks as well. If you have a similar store nearby, it should have one of these units for sale.
    I'd get one if I had only one monitor, that's for sure.
     
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    Obviously you won't get VGA quality output out of it (unless you've got VGA going in ;)), but it should work fairly well for your needs.
     
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    I have that. Quality is lowered (colours are a bit off and sometimes picture can be blurry) except when using composite input.

    Useful if you dont really want to have a TV (like I got mine so I wouldnt have to take a TV to uni with me)...but dont expect the quality to be great.
     
  5. blackzc

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    OK so in order to get VGA quality from my PS2 i need a upscanner right?

    will the upscanner work with my GC, N64 , (what kind of input do they have)?
     
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    All of those composite/SVideo to VGA boxes are upscan converters.

    All they do is take the input signal and convert it to something that the VGA monitor can understand but they DO NOT improve the picture quality.

    No upscan converter can improve the picture quality.

    If you want to get as close as possible to "VGA" quality without having a VGA output on your console you will want to get a colorspace converter that will take component input and output VGA. This will allow you to run your progressive scan PS2 and Xbox games on a VGA monitor in VGA quality.

    The other option would be to purchase an upscan converter that can convert RGB -> VGA. Quality will be lower than using component to VGA, but conponent -> VGA won't work with 480i games (which is what 98% of PS2 games are).

    -hl718
     
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    XerdoPwerko Galaxy Angel Fanatic Extreme - Mediocre collector.

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    About the subject.... sort of....
    I have these two OLD VGA monitors.
    I'm talking about the kind of VGA that would come with a Win3.1 box and a 80286 box, back in 1990.

    Can these be used for anything good, gamingwise? Cos I sort of need a monitor or TV to play my old consoles.
    Can something be done with these, or do I convert them into some sort of installation art?
     
  8. blackzc

    blackzc Spirited Member

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    One more question.


    Will a upscan converter (component in) on a VGA monitor look as good as component from the console to a good Hi-def TV?
     
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    Well, their input is likely to be VGA (check though, I've got an old phillips monitor which has composite inputs), and so you'd need an upscan converter like what's being talked about here.
     
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    XerdoPwerko Galaxy Angel Fanatic Extreme - Mediocre collector.

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    Yup, Alchy, I'm sure it's got VGA input. It doesn't accept a signal from my SVGA Laptop, but it still works otherwise.
    Would a box similar to the one pictured above be useful in my case?
     
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    They're probably not "multi-sync" if they can't take outputs from modern PCs. Or they may be multi-sync, but just don't have a very good range of freq's. Try setting the output from your laptop to 640x480 @ 60Hz, or 800x600 @ 56Hz - you might have more luck with those. Also try messing with the dials on the back of the monitor (if there are any) - have got a crappy old semi-multi-sync monitor at home, and you have to turn one of them all the back every time you give it an SVGA input.

    If an upscan converter converts NTSC video to standard VGA (H:31kHz/V:60Hz), then it should work fine on any VGA monitor.

    There's also a very slight chance that if it's a certain NEC MultiSync model or certain other monitors, that it can take 15kHz video signals. This means you won't need an upscan converter at all - you can just take the RGB outputs directly from whatever console! OK, you may need to separate the sync signals, but that's still a lot easier than upscan conversions.

    VGA monitors (talking about CRT's here) have a significantly smaller dot pitch than TV screens, so *technically* the picture can be a lot clearer, even on a 15". But the upscan converter may worsen the picture, depending on how good it is, and it may not be to your liking. With LCDs though, if it's not pretty new and/or expensive, expect a lot of ghosting with movement, and crap brightess/contrast et al. I'm sorry, I hate the things for playing games.
     
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