@Mr Rare: Those mints are nasty, have you ever tried them? Good lord... might as well be eating actual dreamcast parts...
Seven odd years since the Dreamcast launch? I should imagine they're pretty ripe by now... or whatever happens to old mints.
You bring up a very good point there. But discerning which is which, either petty or higher, depends on the eye of the beholder.
Have to disagree here fellas. I don't think stealing an ashtray verses a beta are even in the same ballpark. Of course both are still stealing. But ashtrays are a dime a dozen, cheap to make, nobody cares about them. If it was made out of diamonds or something I could maybe compare them.
They're just pissy that they don't have the beta. Don't feed the trolls Hwanja, no one is paying attention to these "moralists". The pettiness is the issue. Not the item. Besides, these betas get leaked or throw in the trash, or picked up years after the code is dead. Right now someone is looking put their cig down and he can't because someone stole the damn ashtray. Anyway, this isn't a democracy. Anymore stupid comments by the newbies and they get the door. If you're not here to do something constructive, leave. -ASSEMbler
That ashtray is an interesting item, although not the craziest 'smash and grab' item I have seen. :dance: It is hard to compare the supposed 'theft' of an unreleased beta for a dead system/from a dead company to a 360 beta that was swiped to an ashtray. I won't justify theft, but politicians steal from us everyday, I think a beta here and ashtray there doesn't mean much in the long run. I also can't agree totally with only Americans stealing goodies from Japanese and other arcades. Anyone looking to make a quick buck wouldn't think twice about grabbing anything that isn’t nailed down and through it up on Evil-Bay. ^_^_^
If this is the same guy I'm thinking of, he fucked me pretty well too with that same bad packaging you describe. It got here in pieces.
If I was in an arcade over there I would steal one I don't really see it as a big deal. But that guy on ebay is a little clepto look at this auction he says he bought it in an antique store and the holes are for hanging it on your wall. I bet he stole that and half of the other stuff he sells too.
LOL, some people forget the many unusual things one could find in flea markets/thrift stores here in the US, especially in the South... As for the ash trays, there's tons of items over there people could care less about that might be a "holy grail" to others. ...one man's trash is another man's treasure...
Whats all this talk of Americans? Isnt the seller from the UK? Not that im implying anything, I just dont understand :-(
Substitute 'Americans' for 'gaijin'. As for 'betas are the same as ashtrays', I don't buy it. Physically ripping off ashtrays from arcade machines in Japan and flogging them on eBay for personal profit is not the same as acquiring, and sometimes paying large amounts of money for, old development software which is worthless and useless to anyone but collectors. I mean, the worse you are doing is take something out of someone's trash, which is just recycling frankly. No-one is saying people on the forum break into software companies late at night and physically steal these things. Are they?
*ProgrammingAce whistles and walks away...* You'd be surprised where some of this stuff originally comes from. Know anybody who owns a 360 devkit?
Petty crime annoys me. Imagine you need to use a payphone, but some chav has ripped the receiver from the unit, or you go to use the taps and somone has broken them on purpose, or perhaps went to use a computer at school but someone has password protected the screensaver (scrolling fuck tits) or changed the bios password.
i understand, but the examples you brought are a little different from an ashtray if someone doesn't find one around maybe will surrender and NOT smoke in that sega club (by the way nice scroller text for a screensaver!)
Yeah, that pisses me off. When you look at it like that I can see your point. Kind of like when someone goes to a coin operated newspaper machine, buys one paper, then takes them all for no reason other than he can. Or one time when I was a kid I tied my bike up at the store, came out and some dirtbag stole the seat off it. What the hell you gonna do with a bike seat? I imagine somewhere out there is a guy who has a whole house full of them.