ATTN: PAL players! Sega Mega drive + CSY2100 (RGB Scart -> Component). Help?

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  1. Bboydocument

    Bboydocument Spirited Member

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    Goal/Obsession: To get full color, RGB SCART to RGB COMPONENT, @ 60hz on my TV's!

    I've had the worst luck with 2 different CSY2100/CVS2087's. I've tried them on a Plasma TV, an LCD TV, and a CRT TV, with a region (50/60hz) modded Sega Megadrive and a RGB SCART cable. None of these setups work. I'm in a PAL region, so all my equipment is PAL, except the console.

    Story:
    I bought a CVS2087 (a CSY2100 clone) off eBay and was misled by the eBay seller saying how "ready it was to convert RGB SCART to RGB Component" and how ready it was for a Sega/retro console and for all region consoles and TV's.

    My symptoms were:
    All I got was "Mode unsupported" on a black screen. I also get "Invalid signal" on my other PAL TV's..

    I've checked all the other equipment except the CSY2100 (cables, devices, etc). All work as expected. But the CSY2100/CVS2087 just doesn't work for me!

    Now, the seller sent me a replacement and still doesn't work.

    So I am thinking of buying a HD Box Pro. Has anyone here had success with plugging in a CSY2100 into the HD Box Pro (via component cable) and outputting the VGA into a LCD TV? Is the RGB SCART signal preserved or is the quality decreased? I'm just not in the mood to waste more money to try this out.

    Is there anyone else out there in PAL land that experienced the same problems? Everyone on the net raves on about the CSY2100 being the ultimate for full color 60hz support, with RGB SCART to COMPONENT, but I regret my purchase :banghead:

    Thanks guys!
     
  2. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    I've got a variant of one of those HD Box Pro devices, same chipset inside. Shitty image quality.

    What's the situation with the CRT? Doesn't it have a SCART socket? If so forget component altogether. If it does have SCART and you're not getting a picture there either, chances are you've got problems with the RGB cable itself.
     
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    Oldgamingfart Enthusiastic Member

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    Just stick with RGB SCART, anything else seems like overkill. What next? A Mega Drive with HDMI? :shrug:
     
  4. Bboydocument

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    Hey guys, thanks for your reply!

    I forgot to mention - in my country the region is PAL but we don't have SCART inputs in our TV's here (otherwise i'd be using RGB SCART and not have to buy a CSY2100!).

    So I must resort to an intermediary device like the CSY2100 so I can get SCART to Component.

    I'm really bummed about this. All i've read about is how awesome the CSY2100 is, but i've tried two and I can't get them to work on my TV's.

    All I want is full colour in 60hz mode
     
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    Wait for the X-RGB mini Frame Meister. It sounds like it could be the answer to all old skool console on new TV issues.
     
  6. sonik

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    I do not live in a PAL, country, but I use one of these to convert my ntsc megadrive to component.

    Megadrive works only on CRT television. No image on lcd or plasma.
    Saturn works on all.

    Can you get a saturn to test?

    EDIT:
    My megadrive works on my LCD only if using a 32x.
    I think the 32x have a better video encoder.
     
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    The answer is already here now and relatively cheap
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvv4rHRaVpk
     
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    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    I understand this is very much "my problem", but I do tend to get frustrated at things like this where there's just a few details that are needed and I have to sit through a 17-minute video rather than skim reading info/instructions. For a lot of things text is more useful than video.
     
  11. Lum

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    Some TVs do not accept low res from component. End of story. It's how their scaling unit just is.

    Like my American LCD I'd mentioned a while ago. It will take 480i using component fine. Yet not less. Below that requires composite, s-video, or an external box (luckily I've got a SCART-HDMI one now).
     
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    Sorry for a silly question, but is the SCART cable wired properly? IE it is a true RGB cable and not just composite in a SCART plug? Maybe that is why it is having a winge as there is no RGB to convert?
     
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    Too true

    I know. I actually bought the trinitron after checking the manual which stated RGB Scart. Got it home and voila definitely not RGB. Rang service centre and spoke to a guy that actually knew about the problem and advised that he only found out when he checked the service manual which showed Component not RGB over Scart. Anyway long story short, bought the transcoder and it does exactly what I need. Keene.co.uk also have another model that does RGB Scart to Component Video with Compisite audio if the tv only has the three plugs plus audio. Hope this helps others. I even bought two of their scart commanders due to thenumber of retro consoles that I have managed to connect via RGB Scart.
     
  16. Alchy

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    What's the set, out of interest? Maybe my memory is going, but I can't remember hearing about a Sony that did component over SCART.
     
  17. Mckie1

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    Sony trinitron

    Kd32dx40as

    Widescreen 50hz CRT australian model

    I use it for md, md2, mcd2, 32x, saturn, jaguar, snes, n64, 7800.

    Needed for light guns.
     
  18. Lum

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    Ah. Yeah I should've noted a direct RGB to component encoder does just that. No other functionality promised or implied. Simply maintains the full original input resolution and refresh rate. It's not going to work if your TV won't accept 60hz (or 50hz in the case of American models) over component.
     
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