So I finally got a new TV a 43 inch Vizio. I was calibrating the thing all day yesterday and came across all sorts of problems the wrong settings can cause. But there is one particular thing I haven't quite found the right balance for and that's the Blacklight Bleeding. I only just now figured out the right balance of light and dark (Brightness up to 70 backlight down to 6) but getting there was a pain. Even though just after making this thread I figured it out. I thought I'd ask you guys what your backlight bleeding tips are. With this TV it was only noticeable if the top half of the screen was totally black. other levels of black on Screen would produce different results. I guess the moral here is, new TVs can be a bitch to set up.
With such a small TV, you should get used to it pretty quickly. If you REALLY want to calibrate your TV though, head over to the AVS forum.
Yeah I think most of the issues I'm having is just that I'm not used to the TV yet. I'm starting to notice back light reflections more now in other screens like Laptop screens and I remember my old laptop kind of had it too. I should get used to it. Other than the Backlight this is the best TV I've ever had and best TV amongst the people I know. If a strong backlight is the only issue this TV has then I should be happy but my minor OCD kicks in and......... This was the picture I got before I made any adjustments.
The quality of the bleeding also depends on the type of TV you buy. Vizio doesn't strike me as a high end brand, so you probably won't get the same performance that you would get from a Samsung or Sharp TV.
It happens with Samsungs too, quick google search showed a very similar level that mine on full blast has. There are high end Vizios, I think I ended up with a midrage one. Even then this midrange is the best TV in the house backlight bleeding not withstanding.
I used to think that too, but the newer Vizio lines are really good and the price/performance ratio can be insane (I paid under $2100 for a 70" 4K TV the week it was released). Sharp has some of the worst looking screens I've seen in their own lines (ones they provide for other manufacturers look fine though). Samsung is the top tier, but they are afraid to offer a reasonably priced TV over 60".
I forgot why I didn't get a Samsung. I don't know if it was a price thing or a number of HDMI outs thing. I almost got a Sony Bravia but this vizio was cheaper than the 40 inch I was looking at I sacrificed an HDMI port but gained 3 inches. The reason I got the Vizio is we had such good luck with the one one we already had. I'm still floored by just how good the picture is. The Real test shall come when I watch Alien, since it's a pretty dark movie (picture wise)
Backlight bleeding and ghosting happens with all brands, it just depends on the panel and model type. Sometimes the same TV model has different panels depending on the country being manufactured / sold. Also, just because your TV is branded Vizio, it might have a Samsung or LG panel. There are some other chinese brands i don't remember right now.
This was my experience 3 years ago. You never know what exact panel a reviewer received. I would look at the same model in person and wonder if the reviewer needed their eyes examined. Eventually brought a magnifying glass with me to verify it was an IPS screen. I think they're all IPS now, though, before it was a lottery.
I guess them's the breaks with LED Screens, You have backlight bleeding, but in exchange you get an amazing picture and when something is actually on Screen the TV knows to dim those areas, there's even a black level setting on this TV but it darkened the picture TOO MUCH when it went all black so I turned it off. Still a huge step up from my old 1080i CRT that would get green and blue blotches from magnatism and the blurry edges and over scan. I'll take a backlight that's too strong over all the crt problems any day.
Never fiddle about with the settings and attempt to calibrate by eye. AV Forums' guide is a great start. Even the guide will tell you to use a calibration disc, calibration software or colorimeter/spectrophotometer. There's a great free disc (should be linked on AV Forums - might even be made by them) or you could use the THX app if you have an MHL cable for your mobile device. Certainly turn off the dynamic / vivid crap. On a related note, I bought a television 3 days before last Christmas. I calibrated it straight away. By the beginning of December, I noticed dark patches. Sadly, I didn't report this straight away. It seemed to be more noticeable, so I put a white image through the TV and got this: Samsung said they'd look at it when I reported it (a couple of weeks after it was a year old) but charge, as it was out of warranty. I told them their televisions should last longer than a year and I was very disappointed, having used and recommended Samsung televisions for the past 10 years. I also pointed out that the retailer I bought the television from offers a free 5 year warranty. Their entire reply was - contact the retailer, then. The retailer put me onto their repair engineer, who are based in another county (about 75 miles away, with a toll road between us so probably a good 90 minute drive). They were due yesterday and I requested a replacement television should they need to take it away. I was very worried that they'd say uneconomical repair - get a new TV. Why worried? Because the Samsungs the retailer now have in stock around that price range are crap - no SCART, for one! Fortunately, they called and cancelled - telling me they'd just ordered a new panel and would let me know next week when it would be in stock.
This happens with any brand unfortunately. It even happens with FA lighting. www.rtings.com is the place to go.
I was watching Spectre last night and I was making so many OCD adjustments during the movie I missed most of it. I need to get used to the way this TV is.
found your problem, lol but srsly nearly every LCD has light bleed, even my expensive iPhone 6s! It's where the reflector panel is pulled in along the edge added with the edge of the diffuser panels spilling light. Don't know why they just don't make the backlight assembly a bit bigger than the LCD?? Samsung, along with every other big brand, have a minimum grace period of 3 months, heck some even up too 6 months depending on the product! Are you running at max or very high backlight level?
Vizio is a good brand, the one downstairs is almost 10 years old. I actually got the backlight to a good setting with the right balance of everything. But I'm noticing things that aren't there like a boarder around the inner edge of the TV and slight red tints on the left when the screen is a solid white that turns out to just be something that I see because of the angle I'm looking at it. I'm pretty happy with the TV now. It's not 100% perfect that tint bothers me but it's so slight and nobody else noticies I wonder if it's even actually there or if the TV is messing with my eyes. Even at the low backlight setting I have it at it's still almost too bright for me.
The TV engineer came today. I showed him the screen with my pattern generator through it on purity test - he agreed within 5 seconds it was bad. He had the new panel (which actually comes as the whole front) - within 10 minutes he had it apart, the two PCBs out and switched over. It took longer to go out to the van and find the service remote to fix the fact the picture was upside-down on the screen! He said all manufacturers have panels that go nowadays. His opinion was that Samsung aren't particularly good any more, but John Lewis are really good with their service warranty (5 year free guarantee from the shop on any TV). So the main thing to look for nowadays is a good warranty from a reliable shop!
last night I noticed letter ghosting on my TV and I was freaking out. Then I realized.....Oh my glasses don't have an anti glare coating on them. My eye sight is so bad that the PS3 Controller option screen you get when you press the PS Button is an I shape blob when I'm not wearing glasses. This TV is going to drive me insane.
