Blue Ray closer to victory?

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  1. virtual alan

    virtual alan Officer at Arms

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    B-R / HD aside....freind of mine pay extra for a 1080p over just 1080i and he is a techy guy and has hd & br players and he can`t see the difference between them, but tells his girlfreind he can to justify the cost :lol:


    I am always amazed why they do things differently, why not like CD`s or DVD`s same format, will be a lot less painful

    Also don`t all the movie houses use HD as a standard format and have been for a while
     
  2. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Well that point is true if you don't actually appreciate that there really is a net gain in quality with the new format(s), but consumers are a strange bunch and simply saying something is better and putting it within their financial grasp tends to work!

    Look at the mobile phone industry as a prime example!
     
  3. virtual alan

    virtual alan Officer at Arms

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    Aren`t Blockbuster B-R only already?
     
  4. Unorthodox

    Unorthodox Barc0de's Pimp

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    I don't think we'll really see this at all. The new HD formats will make their main sales on new films. This will mean the formats will linger for a long time to come until price is drastically lower and HDTV penetration moves above the 40% mark.

    EDIT: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6184403.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1 Paramount ditching HD-DVD? ;)
     
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  5. Jasonkhowell

    Jasonkhowell Well Known Member

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    Perhaps, but the HD formats would have to be exactly equal or less then their DVD counterparts for me and many other people to buy them. Then again, who knows? Digital distribution services similar to the videos on Xbox Live and other new services have a rather big chance of being the next DVD over the HD formats.
     
  6. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    I didnt know Blockbuster and Netflix started carrying them. At least for blockbuster, I don't see them at my local rental store.
     
  7. EvilWays

    EvilWays Gutsy Member

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    I'll purchase a 1080p upscale, region free (at least hackably so by remote), multi-video format (PAL/NTSC) DVD player before purchasing either HD-format players.

    Sorry, I'm done with the pissing match between the two formats and groups. From the sounds of it, WB got scared by Fox choosing BR, and was concerned (in part) about the region coding deal (HD-DVD = none, BR = 3 regions).
     
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  8. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    I got T2 on blu-ray for $17.49 from Bestbuy the other night. I think they are too expensive though, most other movies were $25+

    The quality is a big step from normal DVD, just upscaled DVD looks closer.

    I think for longer movies the quality will be more noticeable. Things like Lord of the Rings will really benefit from HD discs.
     
  9. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I m one of those people that doesn't see the point of owning a great deal of movies beyond very very few ones.
     
  10. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    IMO, as far as it counts, the one that presents the fewer production costs (and thus the one that sells cheaper) will win.
     
  11. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    me too. i own about 4 or 5 movies. The Princess Bride, Dumb and Dumber, Tommy Boy, and all 3 seasons of The Office. Any other movies I just Netflix or something.
     
  12. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    We have a winner!

    160Mbps internet is here (with Comcast anyways), and I imagine that number is only going to rise higher and quicker in the coming few years. I imagine within the next 5 years having an insanely fast internet connection is going to be the standard for most people, so just buying your movies online and storing them on your computer (or Xbox360, ;) ) will become more and more a viable option, especially since it'll mean not having to drive anywhere, keep up with a disc, worry about the condition of the disc, etc.

    Also, with holographic storage just around the corner, storage on a disc is about to become irrelevant. Much like floppy disks have become.

    These disc formats are too little too late. The average consumer (not you "video afficiandos") isn't going to care about BluRay or HD-DVD. They might browse over the sections and think, "Well... thats neat," but they're still just going to buy the movie on DVD. Eventually, people are going to just want their movie collection stored on one device, and thats just around the corner. BluRay nor HD-DVD really have enough TIME to become as big as DVD did.

    Also, Microsoft had no stakes in HD-DVD. They're big push was for digital distribution (see: Xbox360 Elite). If anything, I imagine they just wanted to draw out the format war so they could just show up with their services and knock both of them out.
     
  13. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Well the only blue ray movie I own is Talladega Nights because it came free with the PS3:110:

    But all in all I really dont care for HD or Blue Ray movies right now.If they come down in price than sure I will buy some but for now I will stick to my trusty dvd's.
     
  14. Missyrelm

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    When we got our 1080p HDTV, we got a up-converting DVD player right away and then looked into other ways of getting the most of the 1080p resolution.

    When Amazon had a sale where you got a relatively good choice of 3 Blu-Ray titles when buying a blu-ray player, plus a very limited list to choose 5 more Blu-Rays that we didn't bother with, we chose the PS3.
    It qualified as a Blu-Ray player for the offer, and we could also play PS3 games and up-converted PS2 games (we don't have a PS2).

    I don't think we would have gotten it for any one of those things. We still watch stuff on VHS. We mostly just use old stuff, but it seemed like a way to get a taste of "current-gen" stuff by getting just one thing with 3 different uses.

    We're more into older more obscure stuff so the difference between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD doesn't really matter to us.
     
  15. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    Right now on 360 you can only "rent" movies right? Or am I missing something? I downloaded "300" only to have it expire... Also, some movies aren't even on there anymore, "Babel" is the first that comes to mind...
     
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  16. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    personally i prefer to own the things i pay for, not to have my 360, or my dvd player "owning" them for me (until they die and i have to re-buy it).
     
  17. Unorthodox

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    I think downloadable content is still a good few years off yet but it will definately come ( iMovies anyone? ). It'll take much longer for happen than it did with MP3s though simply due to the file size, DRM, link between PC and TV, and lets not forget the WGA are still on strike because of online distribution lol.

    Personally though I'd still like a physical copy of the material I purchase.
     
  18. A. Snow

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  19. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    IMO, Blu-Ray is just another media format invented by Sony for their control. Just look at Beta, Mini-Discs, UMD, Sony Memory Sticks, etc. They serve no purpose, or fill no void except for the fact that Sony makes them, and they want control of a proprietery format.

    Even on a simple level, comparing blu-ray to HD-DVD, why would I choose Blu-Ray (which is region coded - DRM'ed all over), when HD-DVD is just as good, cheaper, but region free? I mean, they learned with DVDs that people want region free discs, so they made HD-DVD region free. Now why the heck would Sony think we need another format (blu-ray) with more lock-downs than the originals?
     
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  20. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    it's only the high-end enthusiasts that have really bite the HD flick, and so far they seem to go for BD over HD-DVD, as simple as that.

    HD doesnt have a mass market appeal, and by the time it does, I think BR will have had the upper hand anyway
     
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