Building a Hackingtosh, good/bad idea?

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  1. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    This is why I'll always love System 7, so 68K and so damn awesome! Mac OS 8.1 sure does crawl on a 68K! :congratulatory:

    Ahhh don't say that, MBA is my weapon of choice at the moment.

    Hahaha rumours of the Apple TV... TV. Ha!
     
  2. Twimfy

    Twimfy Site Supporter 2015

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    I'm sorry but I see the same thing being said over and over again on Mac orientated forums and I just don't get it, I've been a Mac user since 10.4, have used/owned countless different systems and Mountain Lion is the best OS X has ever been.
     
  3. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    If you don't get it, you're the new school! :topsy_turvy: Well the newer than the previous new school.
    I too have only started using Macs full time since 10.4.x.
    It's all personal preference, to each their own. I use all of them on a daily basis at the repair shop.
    10.6 has by far been my favourite so far. But I know to keep upgrading and not to get stuck in the past with no upgrade path.

    While I've adapted to 10.8, I have disabled a lot of the "features" / clutter.
    Remember the days of minimising a QuickTime video into the dock and having it continue to play?
    Those were swell days! :smile-new:

    Edit: Just remembered that it's not called Mac OS X anymore. Unless you think 10.7 was the pinnacle of Mac OS X... :wink-new: 10.6 rules!
     
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  4. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You make rosetta sound like it runs everything, which it doesnt. Its also been removed now anyway.

    Personally, I agree with the MacBook Air - probably do that first, once all the common apps are fat binaries to work on mac airs and x86 macs - they can then do the switch to arm. Kinda like the emulation method (emulate until apps have caught up) but without having to do the emulation.
     
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  5. Twimfy

    Twimfy Site Supporter 2015

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    10.6 was great, I'm not denying that, I still remember the day I received my Snow Leopard update disk in the mail after pre-ordering it and I was mind blown about how fast and stable it was BUT Mountain Lion is pretty much the same OS with a few other features which make my life easier. I couldn't live without fullscreen for example.

    Out of interest what features do you consider to be "clutter"? I don't think there's anything that bothers me. All I know is that when I switch over to SL for app testing it's very difficult to go back to get back into the swing of using it again, feels old now.
     
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  6. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    Fullscreen, Notifications, Launchpad, Mission Control, Autosave, Reversed Scrolling are things I have no use for.
    Autosave really gets my goat. Cmd-Shift-S just gone. Duplicate just sitting there laughing at me.
    Well in all honesty I do enjoy a bit of FileVault 2 in my spare time. Now that is a useful feature!

    Most of the features that have been added don't have much of a use by me. Maybe that's why I am so bitter! :topsy_turvy:
    What confuses me most is how Apple went from such a solid OS (10.6) to 10.7, seemly broke Mac OS X and are recovering with 10.8 now.
    Still such things do happen when they create so much change.
    It does make me wonder how many engineers are actively working on Mac OS these days...

    The fact that it took them four service packs to fix "Reopen windows when logging back in" was just :subdued:.
    They missed it for 10.7.0, 10.7.1, 10.7.2, 10.7.3. That's pretty poor in my book!
    What are they called anyway? Service packs? They aren't really point releases are they? Point point releases? :biggrin-new:
     
  7. Twimfy

    Twimfy Site Supporter 2015

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    If you don't use any of those things and SL is so perfect then why are you so angry? You already have a release which does exactly what you want it to.

    This is another thing I don't get, people shouting at Apple saying they're shit for making Lion and Mountain Lion and getting so angry that they stay on SL and call it the perfect OS. If it's the perfect OS then why get angry? Just let other people use what they want and you stay where you are.
     
  8. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    Nope, doesn't work like that. 10.6 will get left behind with only security updates and then eventually nothing. It will be the next 10.4 before long, not very workable. Ever tried using Safari on 10.4 in recent times? Eeeek! As mentioned, you've gotta upgrade or perish!

    I suppose it just makes me sad that they didn't work on improving 10.6 even further with 10.7. Instead started fusing iOS looking components into it.
    For example I would have loved 10.6 with FileVault 2! :smile-new:

    I feel angry for the people who do not know any better. The moms and pops of the world who will scroll backwards forever because of a simple setting.
    Or the teens who never update their OS so are still stuck on 10.7.2 with all their RAM being consumed on boot by auto-resuming apps.
    I especially feel for the people with rotational hard drives in these cases.

    Edit: If you didn't like the 3000 post avatar, why not start a new account! :wink-new:
     
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    I dont like the 3000 one either. Fortunately I dont have much left till 4000
     
  10. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    What's wrong with it? Isn't it one of those cool kids games you see on the TV?

    Edit: What's mine? A tug boat or a battleship? Hahaha!
     
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    Its too big, like a lot of the post count and staff avatars here (and your personal one!!)

    The 1000 post one is all good.
     
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  12. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    I do like the Pac Man ones. They are nice and small.
    What's the 4000 one like? I'd search the boards for one but meh time is money!
    Hey! I resized mine from 180dpi to 72dpi... no idea why it was so high.
    Besides, how else would you know it is party time ALL the time? :wink-new:

    Edit: Oh wait, I used to have issues telling everyone apart on here because I thought all the avatars were the same...
    Turned out it was just the post counts! :victorious:
     
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    Well, no it didn't. But it did witht he majority of stuff I threw at it, including Office 2004 and some obscure shareware apps. I think I even got it to run Bleem! at one point. As I said, Apple dropped PowerPC support with the release of 10.6 and dropped Rosetta with the release of 10.8. They transitioned to Intel with 10.4. So, basically, gave everyone circa 4 years to upgrade. They didn't just drop support for PowerPC on day one and say "right lads, you're on your own!"

    Exactly. Except, the ARM processor they use will be something still on the drawing board, because it would need to be both high powered, quad core and capable of running a respectable emulation of x64, yet have the important aspects of ARM's low power consumption and power management schemes. The way Intel is pushing Atom at the moment, the Atom might actually be a simpler and less costly platform to target - given the fact that they would need no transition to happen. In the 5 year time frame, Atom could be where ARM is now and be a fair trade off. Who knows!? :topsy_turvy:
     
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    RetroSwim <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    "Natural scrolling" thanks.

    It's awesome if you use the trackpad a lot.

    I just wish it could be set per-device. When I'm using a mouse, natural scolling is, well, unnatural.

    On a trackpad it makes more sense, you're manipulating the content, not a 30-year-old UI widget. ;)



    Literally makes zero difference unless you're putting the image into a DTP package for print. ;)

    You need to change the actual dimensions if you want to make it appear smaller.
     
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  15. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    On a touch screen natural scrolling is now it should be, I've grown too accustomed to it now.
    I guess it's my loss though! :topsy_turvy:

    Weird, because as soon as I dropped it to 72dpi my avatar started appearing on the recent forum posts.
    Maybe it just needed a reupload, a ghost in the shell perhaps? :biggrin-new:
     
  16. Twimfy

    Twimfy Site Supporter 2015

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    Finished my Hackintosh today with a G4 case mod. Lost a lot of blood but pretty pleased with the result.

    http://imgur.com/a/82oma
     
  17. Shane McRetro

    Shane McRetro Blast Processed Since 199X

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    Now that is one top notch job! Very sassy looking, does she have a name yet?
     
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    Wouldn't be surprised. The image resizing on forums like this is usually done by ImageMagick in the back end. I've had random issues like that before.

    The myth of DPI is well documented: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2010/02/the-myth-of-dpi/


    That's fantastic.


    I've wanted a G4 or G5 case for years but the opportunity never presented. Always too high asking price, or too far away.
     
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  19. Twimfy

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    Lol I'm not one for naming computers but seems like she does deserve a name.

    The case only cost me £9.

    Will definitely switch to a G5 case when I have the time/money, this one has a few scratches on it and the power button is controlled by a confusing logic board making it really difficult to mod so at the moment I'm using a standard ATX power button set behind the DVD eject button.

    Also there isn't much room for cooling fans so at the moment I have nothing but the stock CPU and GPU fan in there which may not bode well for the future, I modified the existing case fan but because it has no controller pin it maxes out permanently. There is simply no room for anything else unless I start hacking up more of the case.

    Still looks cool though :)

    Few details:

    i3-2120 3.3Ghz
    XFX Geforce GTX 260
    4GB DDR3 (moving up to 8 when I get the cash)
    WD 500GB Sata-III running OS X 10.8.4
    Seagate 500GB Sata-III running Windows 8 Pro x64
    Gigabyte GA Z77-DS3H Rev 1.0 Mobo.
    Cheap Maplins Bluetooth adapter.
    Original Apple Keyboard and Magic Mouse (from my old iMac).
    BenQ 24" 1080p Screen with HDCP support.

    Everything works natively, sound, sleep, ethernet etc.

    :)
     
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  20. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    I used to think that as well. Takes a little while to get used to. The style sheet is pretty messed up, Avatars are resized by width. :/
     
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