Can I use an 8-bit card on a 16-bit ISA slot?

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  1. H360

    H360 Familiar Face

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    Hi. I have an 8-bit ISA card. Can I use it on a 16-bit slot?

    You can see 1x 8-bit and 5x 16-bit slots.

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    Thanks.


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    I know, I know. Use Google you fucking idiot.
    I am not in the Google mood today and like giving others an opportunity to share their knowledge.
     
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    So basically, you like letting other people do the work for you?

    =/
     
  3. H360

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    No. I like giving everyone a equal and fair chance. I also would like a second opinion or what others have to say about it. After all, Google is built on people who provide the answers for the people that ask.
     
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    Give people a fair and equal chance at what? giving you answers?

    Do you not realise how this just makes you sound arrogant or just crazy?

    "Im going to give you all a equal chance at helping me, because I am not in the mood to research it myself"
     
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  5. H360

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    Sorry. I did not mean it like that at all. I just wanted a second opinion and your advice on the subject.

    Back on topic please.
    Can I use an 8-bit card on a 16-bit slot Bad, or do you have no clue?
     
  6. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Yes, you can use an 8bit card in a 16bit slot as long as it physically fits, it if has an overhang then you need to use the 8bit slot. You only use the 8bit part of the slot anyway.... Just remember to make sure that no devices conflict when setting the address, DMA and IO jumpers.

    BadAd84 : For the time it took you to have your google rant, do you think you could have just have said yes and have saved your time and stopped yourself foaming at the mouth? :D
     
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    As above.

    PCI/PCI-X are also the same

    as is PCI-E (x1,x4,x8,x16)
     
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  8. H360

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    Thank you Jamtex and Bad :)
     
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    Give a man a fish and all that.

    Long term goal to stop these posts. Time invested now, to savings later on. ;p
     
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    You're a good guy Bad. Thanks for the help mate.
     
  11. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Yeah, 99% of all questions asked on here could be answered with a google seach but that would make a fairly dull message board if no one asked any questions. However if we answer these questions anyway then Assemblergames.com heads up the page in google searches. You'd be surprised on what assemblergames.com is on page one of google searches...
     
  12. Bad_Ad84

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    I am not opposed to your point.

    But, there is a difference between that and "I cant be bothered to look, answer it for me" which is what Haunted's posts generally are (and how they are worded).

    Not only that, a 5 second google search would have revealed that 8bit cards are forward compatible with 16 bit slots. However, if he had came here with "I have X 8 bit ISA card, I know most cards should work - but does anyone have know if this specific card works?" - would be more likely to both be an interesting thread and give your precious google results. All without coming across as lazy.

    Especially when hes trying to gain credibility as a hardware/software developer on this very forum - it makes sense to not appear lazy or not very bright. If you cant google search for 5 seconds or want someone to answer a pretty basic question for you, your credibility for more complex things is going to suffer.

    Win (Us) - Win (Internet/Google) - Win (Haunted)!

    Yay!
     
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  13. Hamster

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    not all 64 bit pci-x slots work in a 32bit pci slot.
     
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    shoryuken!!! sorry, i mean, sure you can, i've used a lot of time 8 bit cards on 16 bits machines, even hooked up an MFM HDD controller to a celeron pc, so i can take back to life an old xt pc
     
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    Thats the opposite way around to what this conversation is about :)

    In this instance it would be using a 32 pci card in a 64 bit pcix slot.

    However, the opposite does also work sometimes as you mention (same with ISA too - some 16 bit cards will work in a 8 bit slot, but not all of them). But that wasnt the direction this thread is about :)
     
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    ISA /EISA yes 8 bit is fine in 16 bit.

    PCI/pcix is another matter entirely.
     
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    Uhm, no it isnt.

    I assume you are confusing PCI-X with PCI-E.

    PCI 32 bit, PCI-X is 64 bit and is just a longer slot for the extra signals - EXACTLY like 8/16 Bit ISA. So, its pretty much the same thing...
     
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  18. Hamster

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    doh!

    yes, 8bit card will work in a 16 bit isa slot,EISA slot, or a 32bit VLB Slot.
    yes, 16bit card will work in a EISA slot.
    yes, 16bit PCI will work in a 64 bit PCI-X Slot.
    yes, a PCI-E 1x will work in a 4x, 8x, 16x slot.
    Yes, a PCI-E 4x will work in a 8x, 16x slot.
    yes, a PCI-E 8x will work in a 16x slot.

    Sometimes.... a PCI-X willw ork in a PCI Slot.
    Sometimes.... a 16bit ISA card will work in a 8 bit Slot.

    an AGP card will never work in any slot but an AGP slot.
    an EISA card will never work in any slot but an EISA slot.

    and if you want to know what todo with your MCA card, circle file it, cause i don't think there is a single computer still working with an MCA Slot.
     
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    A bunch of x16 cards will work in x1 slots too - it will just run slower.

    and PCI is 32 bit :)
     
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  20. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    I've seen more MCA cards in then I have seen EISA cards, even when I was buidling computers during the 90s. MCA was mainly used on the IBM PC PS/2 series of machines.

    Vesa Local Bus was an extention of ISA and the slot is still a 16 bit ISA slot...

    AGP did come in several flavours, a 1.5V card will not work or fit on a 3.3V only slot nor will an AGP Pro 3.3V card generally work in a AGP slot. Although there were universal cards and universal slots, there is no gaurantee that an AGP card will work in a computer that has a AGP slot unless you know what the card is and what type of slot it has...

    PCI also came in several flavours, including 32 and 64 bit and there were 3.3V and 5V cards too, so again no gaurantee that certain cards will work in certain motherboards...

    MCA, VLB and EISA are all dead standards, although ISA still exists...
     
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