Can you really do this on tv?

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  1. Evangelion-01

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  2. MasterChief

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    theres no way that made it on tv. thats harsh even for trey parker & matt stone.

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    That flash movie has warped my fragile little mind...
     
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    It was on tv. I saw it.
     
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    :smt082 lolol! I love Southpark !
     
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    That was on TV??????? Fuck, never in a million years would I have thought that would make it on to TV. It must have been on cable or something.

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  8. The VGM

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    Comedy Central is on cable.
     
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    OMFG!!! I dont have comedy central on my cable, btw.
    Thats too weird. Maybe they got too 'lenient' on that episode...
     
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    Friggin hilarious....Leave it to south park to push the envelope.
     
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    Saw that episode. So hilarious, yet so gross.
     
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  12. I'm not sure I needed any reinforcement to my opinion that South Park was utter shit, but this just proved me right once more. Dick and fart jokes and random obscenity can be funny if you've got actual humor to back it up, but when that's all you rely on in your show - well, it's definately something that caters to the lowest common intellectual denominator. The Madden, the GTA of comedy, at it's finest.
     
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    which episode is it?
     
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    I'm going to take a wild guess and say you didn't like "Princess" either...
     
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    I have to disagree. While yes, they do some pandering to the lowest common denomoinator, there is a very intelligent underlying humor to most of the episodes. I would say that the majority of the people that watch South Park probably do so only because of the crude humor. However, there are those like my wife and me who watch it also for the subtle humor.
     
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    Though South Park is often crude, it's still funny. Watch the baseball episode from the last season. It'll speak to your love of the Rocky movies, and everybody's natural hatred of playing baseball.
     
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    i saw this clip awhile back, trust me if you saw this one clip on ebaums featuring shocking clips from tv youd be suprised how loose things are these days. And yes, comedy central gets away the most with showing what they show, the secret stash pretty much shows all their movies uncut and uncensored in full gloy,(except eddy murphys raw since they used an exsisting tv cut which bleeps all the vulgar dialoug out)of course its show at dead hours startign at 1:00am, and yes fuck has been gotten away with many times on award shows, just on reairings they cut the part out. Of course most of what comedy central has gotten away with is thanks to south park, at times censors are very lose if they know the show is suppose to be extreme and contains very edgy jokes, such as the censors are with family guy.
     
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    Yes, actually I can because I see it for what it is: humor. While I will not try to say that everyone will find it funny, quite the opposite most likely, I'm just glad that they will make fun of any topic for any reason. No PC BS; no self-censoring.
     
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    I'm a media communication analyst - we analyse the structures and implicit messages in "texts" (which can also be movies or paintings. In semiology, "text" stands for a work that communicates some meaning).
    The narrative structure of South Park depends on shock humour because the message is presented in layers. The foreground layer, the most obvious one, is the vulgarity and shocking themes (shitting out of your mouth, Kenny dying gruesomely, painting walls with shit, Okama Chinpokomon, etc).
    The background layer (in most texts, this includes the "implicit" message, which becomes the one you take "for granted", and thus becomes the main point of a text) contains true, serious social commentary. For example, while everybody is "shitting out of their mouth", there is an underlying critique of the role of religion. Thus, the audience takes the background layer information "for granted", and the message becomes more relevant, since, buried under the shocking weight of the more scandalous one, this one becomes "regular", "true", even.

    Don't know whether I've been able to explain this in full - so let's set a very blunt example. You see, on TV, a picture of a very regular american family from the 50s. Dad is going to work, Jimmy is going to primary school and is dressed accordingly, Jane is a regular teenage girl with golden blonde locks and a skirt below her knees, who talks about fashion and music. Mom cooks and works in the house.
    During the scene you see, the conversation or situation in which they participate is the "main theme", the foreground layer of the scene. The background layer, however, legitimises the gender roles of Mom as a housewife, Jane as a shallow consumer, and Dad as a right wing provider.
    Since these pieces of information become "obvious" in their downplayment as background elements, they become "true", and are "taken for granted". They are, thus, legitimised as regular ideological messages and are assumed by the audiences.
    This is called an "implicit message" (I think it was Marcuse who coined the terms).
    It's the same way South Park works, but instead of disseminating information by the "regular" institutions and state-compliant ideologies, it hides its critical commentary under a layer of profanity.
    Every episode of South Park, thus, has two lines of significance: One foreground line of shocking profanity, and one background of implicit social commentary.
    Therein lies the genius of the series.

    And stuff
     
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