CDRWin 3.9

I used to have this program (CDRWin 3.9) and used it to burn PSX games but I cant find it. Does anyone here have a copy of it or a download link?

 

What's wrong with IMGBurn?

 

Any recent burning program (well, maybe not Windows' builtin one) should be able to do what CDRwin could (and probably more). If you were trying to read discs it might be another story - not sure, but I believe even then you'd be better off with something more modern. Hoo-ray, technological progress! Anyways, if you have a reason to stick with CDRWin keep in mind that there were really a lot of different versions of 3.9 (up to at least 3.9K, which is available here).

 

I will be burning Saturn and PSX games and maybe rip some from time to time. I saw a debate on the forum here and got confused, over which burning software to use. What burning software should I use to burn these 2 images, they are bin/cue. I want good burns.

 

I've used CDRWin in the past to dump Dreamcast games. As far as burning I have had success (less glitches) when burning games at lower speeds. But this comes down more to having an old drive than the program.

 

There's zero reason to use CDRWIN today:

-it's shareware
-its native bin/cue format is extremely basic and supported everywhere
-cuesheets are a naive format that leaves out multi-session information and more (leading other people to extend the format)
-the program itself cannot accurately determine disc structure (and may silently "fix" your tricky game discs when imaging)
-it cannot compensate for drive "offset" so audio tracks won't necessarily have the correct start and stop times
-it cannot check the subchannel data to verify audio integrity, so you never know if the audio track was read accurately (in most cases it's not)

 

Okay so Cdrwin is out. Whats the recommended program for burning Saturn and PSX games? Bin/Cue format.

 

Literally anything can burn basic bin/cue images, especially if they're single-session, single track data discs (as is the case with many PS games, but very few SS games).

So if you don't care about absolute accuracy, practically any program will make a playable copy of PS and SS games--the majority of SS games will just have inaudible audio errors and the audio tracks may start/end fractions of a second early/late. (Your downloaded bin/cue SS images are very likely bad images, technically.)

CD burning is tricky business because you're always at the mercy of the drive; so even if you supply it with or request from it absolute information about a disc, it may decide to do its own thing/give you erroneous data. For very simple discs or making casual backups to play, this generally isn't a problem. For accurately imaging or backing up multi-track, mixed-mode and multi-session CDs for archival purposes this is a huge problem.

AFAIK right now you need a cocktail of tools to accurately image any non-vanilla data CD, but for burning ImgBurn is great for Windows while the cdrtools suite works for everything else.

 

Yup, I use ImgBurn. Have burnt ps1 and saturn games with it.

 

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You have to use unecm on the file first. Ecm rearranges the files to allow for better data compression.

 

Actually it doesn't rearrange anything, but removes the error recovery tidbitsfrom disc images (cutting down the size), because when they're zipped/rared those file formats allow to recognize any errors anyways. But apart from that, yeah, what he said - you have to "unecm" that file to restore the information "ecm" dropped.

 

ISO+MP3 wasn't enough, they had to do ECM...