Component out snes with ba6592f questions.

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  1. takeshi385

    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    I have an snes with the BA6592F encoder chip, My board revision is 1990 nintendo shvc-cpu-01. My encoder chip is place behind the cart slot and to the left of the sound board connector. Do I have to make an amp to get component out or can I just connect wires from the pins of the encoder chip and wire them to rca jacks? Which pins go to what?
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Have the same model and did this mod and it came out great.

    Follow this.
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    ^ is not close to a proper amplifier, your results will vary TV to TV because Pr is "amplified" and Pb is not (they're complementary signals), and Pb needs manual tweaking.

    More info: http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8979&start=45

    The most logical solution would be to use a THS7314 as you would a RGB amplifier. The inputs will probably need to be AC coupled (series input capacitors, like 470 nF or 1 uF, then 5.1 M [IIRC] pull-up resistors) similar to the PCE RGB mod. You also should take Y from the S-ENC, not from the multi-out.
     
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    Thanks for the replies guys. Before you guys posted I went ahead and wired it up without an amp circuit and I saw an amazing quality image(granted it was black and white). I might go as to say the image is clearer than rgb scart. Anyhow when it comes to schematics I have the ability to screw it up without fail so I might Just pay ape to build the board for me.

    To calpis: once the amp is built do I just connect the red ,blue and sync to the appropriate points or will there need to be some sort of power added to the circuit?
     
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    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    The reason you have good (black and white) quality is that the Y signal *is* amplified natively in the console. Y is the only signal used for black & white video.

    If you use the THS amplifier you would connect Y, Pb and Pr outputs directly from the S-ENC chip to the amplifier circuit (it will need the capacitors and pull-up resistor on the input). No RGB or sync signals but the amplifier will need +5V and GND.

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    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    Thank you so much for this schematic. I guess I'll the 5v from the multiout.
     
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    I have one more question ( ape just got done building my board). You said pull the y from the S-ENC chip. Is y pin 23 and is pin 23 the one directly beside pin 24?
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    This will help dude.

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    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    So 23 is green(y) awesome.
     
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    Update: I just received the amp in the mail from ape and even though my panel mount jacks from mouser haven't come in yet I was able to do some testing. When I first hooked it up the color were very saturated ,but after adjusting my television I was able to make the image almost perfect( red is a tad weak but almost no one would notice). I don't think I care enough to swap the resistor on the red for something a bit weaker. Thank you Calpis for the schematic and thank you Pikkon for all the help as well.

    Edit: It could be my off-brand ac adapter.
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    I know you have jacks on the way but here is something I did.

    All you need to do is remove the rf modulator and install a 3.5mm trrs jack in the rf port and use a 3.5mm av cable for component,for audio use a snes av cable.
     
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    Actually Is saw someone online who just cut at the shielding and placed them under the sound board. As for audio I'm going to use a normal nintendo cable with female jacks soldered to it. Here's a pic that I shamelessly stole:
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    I have seen that pic before and that's a tight fit but it looks good.

    Here is how mine looks.

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    That looks nice ,but I like the more orthodox method of component out. I also want to say that your super famicom is the cleanest I have ever seen. Did you retro-bright it?
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Nope,that's how it came,guess I got lucky.
     
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    I finished working on my snes last night and I found out that the component jacks I bought from mouser were longer and fatter than the ones the guy in that pic used so It did require a bit more work to finish this console up. After I was done modding I spent an hour or two play speedy gonzales los gatos banditos( I wish I had video of that as I'm awesome at that game).
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    This pic shows that I had to cut back the shielding that goes under the board.
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    This pic shows how I had to desolder the grounding bracket of the sound card then cut it back as well as the grounding plate that touches the snes's own shielding.
     
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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Awesome work takeshi385,looks great.
     
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