Consoles with D-Terminal?

Can anyone tell me what consoles output via D-Terminal? I know the PS2 and PS3 an Wii can, but how about 360, and older generations of consoles?

Thanks in advance!

 

D-Terminal is just component AFAIK, so any console that does component does D-Terminal assuming someone makes a cable for it.

I have a D-Terminal cable for my GC... it's actually official as well if memory serves.

I searched "D-Tanshi" in games on Yahoo Japan. Got one for the 360 it seems.
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n53440431

 

sorry GP to correct you, but this is not true.

D-terminal is not component. It can deliver component-class quality when its a D-5 cable however. Lower D-grade cables are suitable for older systems as well.

for more information visit wikipedia on D-terminal folks.


The 360 uses a small adaptor connected to its HD-pack cables (component cables) so it can hook-up to D-5 capable sets. I am not aware if it can carry 1080p though.

 

Barc0de, it is component though, it carrys the same signal. It does 480i as well, but that doesnt make it anything less than component

From Wikipedia:
"A D-Terminal connector carries a component video signal (Y Pr Pb)."
Its not like an SCART cable which can be composite, S-video, or component.

 

I guess if you're going to get technical component isn't component either then. Well...isn't progressive only I should say. There are many 15khz TVs that have Component inputs, but obviously can't handle a progressive signal. My Sony Wega has D-Terminal jack, but is 15khz only -- the input is labeled "component" in katakana.

As a side note, I've heard the "component" inputs give "near analog RGB" quality when the TV is not an HDTV. I don't know of any models in America with them... and of course, won't help you for old games that don't output component.

 

Component Video is the best you can get in North America for a video signal unless you can output VGA or DVI or some such standard. Ofcourse the problem is other than rather current devices, nothing outputs component video from the past. All your old game systems output RGB and you'd need to hook them up to a RGB to Component Video Encoder like JROK or NeoBitz sell. If you only have a TV with Component Video and no RGB, creating some kind of RGB to Component box (or buying a similar device) is the best way. I'm pretty sure I saw on ebay people selling RGB to Component Video boxes. Get that, SCART cables for your Consoles, and a SCART Audio Breakout device and you'd be set assuming you have a decent CRT with Component.

 

i have a 4:3 EDTV CRT tv back at home, a SONY WEGA. Fit for the purpose i'd say!

EDTV= 480p (Enhanced Definition)

 

I use D-Terminal for the Wii (D- Terminal to Component) and D-Terminal to D-Terminal for my DVD player. Both are listed as component on the TV in katakana when I flick to the channels.

Yakumo

 

to clarify, what i meant was that not ALL D-terminals are component. D-5 is =)

 

I see what you mean. I wonder if the Saturn can out put a D-Terminal signal? That system is capable of some amazingly high resolutions even higher than the Dreamcast from what I remember.

Yakumo

 

ah, it seems that I m wrong.

Hence, the saturn could potentially do a D-1 based on the above, as long as it could output YPrPb (which i think it doesn't)

Ultimately, if you want to see whether ur console can handle any type of D-terminal, you d have to trace it to Y Pr Pb and see if the console outputs Y Pr Pb in any way or RGB variations.

For a guide on Y Pr Pb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YPbPr

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

 

All consoles until PS2 output RGB only. To get component, you just need to implement this formula:

Y = 0.299R + 0.587G + 0.114B
Pb = -0.299R - 0.587G + 0.886B
Pr = 0.701R - 0.587G - 0.114B

 

I wonder if it tries to convert a signal to 480p. I should get a D-video cable for my PS2 and see.

Wish that were true. I know what you mean though.

He lives! Am I like the last person on the Earth (at least here) to know this?

 

1) The set has two settings when a signal is non-progressive. "Progressive" and "DRC-MF 1250".

I have no idea what they do, but when a signal is progressive it says "Progressive Scan"

2) regarding all consoles before Ps2 outputing RGB, I think he refers to the way the colorspace is calculated even if they dont really output useable RGB.

 

One useful thing about the D terminal standard is that most TVs will tell you the maximum setting they can do. So a D1 TV will only do 480i (ie standard resolution in component) a D3 TV will do 720p, 480p and 480i, a D5 TV 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i, etc...

With an RGB to component transcoder you could make any of the the 16bit/32bit consoles that output RGB to do component. I've seen a 15Pin to D terminal convertor when I was in Japan last.

It's not true that no console before the modern ones didn't do component. For example it's possible to make the Intelivision output component by soldering in 4 leads.

 

Intellivision? Which pins on the AY-3-8900-1?

 

Oops wrong console, I mean the Colecovision with a TMS9928(A) pins 36 - Y, 38 - R-Y and 35 - B-Y, use a resistor (470 Ohmish) connected to ground. Use proper shielded video cable too as well as decent solder.

 

Less negatives please.

But wasn't the comment that all pre-PS2 consoles output RGB?

 

Well, that's probably true of almost every computer and video game system made in the past 20 years.

 

The default cables that came with the 360 in japan includes composite & D-Sub (no component plugs).

I can verify this since my 360 is japanese