Controller repair, need help finding good parts (Xbox One, PS4)

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  1. FrenchyToasty

    FrenchyToasty Rising Member

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    I used to order my joystick parts from the same guy on ebay, now the potentiometer are incredibly cheap on his joysticks and they have huge deadzone and the 3d rotation joystick itself is also super cheap. (crooked pins so the center position is messed up)

    Do you guys have any reliable ones?

    Please don't send me links to parts you haven't personally tried as I tried many places with pictures but the ones they sent didn't match the pictured products.
     
  2. linglang

    linglang Rising Member

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    So if I understand you right, you repair joysticks for Xbox One and PS4 ?

    Recalibration procedure after replacement of parts ?

    I myself bought a Logitech controller for the PS2 .

    The centre dead zone was not working properly, and the rest was out of whack.

    Games pulled to the right with the stick dead centre.

    It was not the potentiometers, measure a good working one and a clone one.

    Measure the resistance, you will see it got almost the same values, otherwise it is real crap.

    ALPS is a A class brand.

    Quote:

    "I purchased from Mouser (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/688...).
    The coloring is different and there are tiny little plastic nubs on the bottom that prevent the assembly from sitting flush.
    Clip off the nubs, solder the new one in place and the controller works again.
    I found that downloading the "Game Controller Tester" from the Microsoft app store was helpful as well to test the dead zone.
    On mine, the pot which had the problem had score marks for some reason on the resistive track inside that caused the controller to drift up. Not sure what caused it, but now I have 4 more replacements when my other controllers go bad"

    Check the data sheet for measurements and other specifications.

    He uses these ALPS " Multi-Directional Switches" for the Xbox One.

    Hopefully your problem can me solved, with a recalibration.

    For Logitech controllers the procedure is, remove one of the batteries.

    Hold, L1 + L2 then insert the battery, do not move the analog sticks while doing that, wait a few seconds.

    For PS4, probably a reset with the button on the underside of the controller.

    https://community.playstation.com/c...rals.topic.html/left_joystick_onds4-LEzd.html

    Xbox One



    https://support.pdp.com/hc/en-us/ar...-without-me-touching-them-How-can-I-fix-this-

    Hopefully this helps.
     
  3. FrenchyToasty

    FrenchyToasty Rising Member

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    Not at all, but thanks for the reply! hahahah!

    No the issue is that with Xbox One and PS4 the joystick they have in there are really poorly done and the potentiometer wears on its own, the metal arms in it scratch the carbon up and it messes things up. your joystick will go crazy.

    Cheap parts have spaces in the potentiometer with no carbon at all (in the center position) creating a dead zone, you cannot calibrate it as it's literally in sitting in a place where there is no connection at all.

    XBox One controllers are more prone to this issue but it extends to PS4 aswell.
     
  4. smilecitrus

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    I've bought a few hundred of the #1 type from this Aliexpress listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/6-C...Playstation-4-PS4-Controller/32857093310.html

    Sometimes they send the ones with green and white potentiometers. Other times they're green and black. The green and black potentiometers are almost always bad, so I have to reuse the originals for those, but it's not a big deal for me since I usually have spares. The sticks themselves are almost always perfect. They're indistinguishable to me from the originals. I've also bought original ALPS sticks from Mouser, but the ones from Aliexpress are just as good and much cheaper. To install them I solder the new stick onto the board, then, before reassembling the controller, I plug the PCB into the computer with a USB cable and manually adjust the joystick using pliers until it's centered when at rest. I use the Windows Game Controller Tester that linglang mentioned as well as the HTML5 Gamepad Tester. Generally, if you get values of 0.05 or less in HTML5 Gamepad tester while the stick is at rest then you've calibrated it "good enough" and you won't have any drift or other issues during gameplay.
     
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  5. irvgotti452

    irvgotti452 Rising Member

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    Adjust with pliers? How do you do this?
     
  6. smilecitrus

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    Sorry it took me forever to reply. I'm not usually very active on forums,.

    Most of the time when you install a new joystick on a controller it won't be perfectly centered when at rest. It'll be tilted in one direction or another. Sometimes you get lucky and you may get a stick that's perfect right from the get-go. But you usually need to physically bend the parts so that the stick doesn't tilt in any direction when you're not touching it. Otherwise you'll have issues like your character or the camera angle moving on their own.

    The best way to do it I've found is to open the Game Controller Tester and the HTML5 Gamepad tester at the same time.
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    With both windows visible I adjust these parts with pliers until it's good enough:
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    I'm sure there are other techniques out there, but this is the way I've always done things and it usually works for me.

    You shouldn't ever have any problems in gameplay if the values you see in the HTML5 Gamepad tester are between -0.05 and +0.05 while the stick is at rest (i.e. no more than 5% off center). I've never personally had any problems even with sticks that showed values as high as -0.1 to +0.1. But I've heard that some games like certain first person shooters and some sports games could be sensitive enough that a stick that's 10% off like that would result in noticeable gameplay problems.
     
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