Convert XBOX Live Debug to standard Debug?

Anyone know if its possible to convert XBOX Live Debug to standard Debug kit?

Thanks?

 

Not easily. Besides, why would you want to do so?

An Xbox Live Debug is rarer than a standard debug and it is the only system that will run the Live Debug games.

A standard debug cannot do it and a retail cannot do it.

-hl718

 

*Cries to himself in the corner*

 

OE, don't cry I've picked up a couple of debug motherboards/hd's one being an XBL Debug. They are not complete sealed units (no case, psu or dvd etc), i'd never do it to a unit in my permanent collection

Just wanted to have a play really. While on the subject of XBL Debug, is it possible to run unsigned code on them at all?

Thanks

 

Phew

The simple answer to running unsigned code on Beta LIVE! Debug Kits is 'no'.

'Yes' you could do a number of things and get unsigned code to run but its a lot of work, risky and not particulary easy.

...What you have to bear in mind is that a Beta LIVE! Debug Kit is a 'regular' Debug Kit that Microsoft reflashed only to run Beta LIVE! software.

...They never made a Recovery Disc to go backwards to 'regular' Debug Kit spec.

 

I've never looked really until today, but none of my XBOX Live beta disks work on standard debug, xdk or even a modded XBOX with a BIOS thats supposed to run anything. I'm just curious as to what MS did to these XBL kits, if I could somehow run unsigned code I could dump the bios and eeprom.

I wonder if a standard debug bios loaded onto an old modchip would work, might have to try later if I can find a spare LPC modchip & flasher around.

Is there even a BIOS that will make these live games run on normal modded boxes?

Thanks

 

No

...But you can recode beta Live! games so that they will run on modded Xboxes.

 

Thanks OE, i'll give it a shot. I do have a couple of Lamborghini builds that i'd like to try out when I get the time, i've only quickly looked at the ones I have (one having an SP mode and the other being Live only from what I can see) and it would be nice to play them on my modded unit rather than bringing out a Live Debug

 

Well, I want to put these bits i've got to some use. Does anyone have any idea how I could dumb the eeprom and bios from a live kit? It might be a stupid idea but I'm gonna install a modchip on one of the standard debug boards I have (one bank being standard debug and the other being live debug) Its possible to intergrate the eeprom with the BIOS with a little work.

So if anyone has ideas on how to dump a live debug bios or where I could download, at least I can get looking at it while the mod chip is on its way

Speaking of bits, I could have a case-less DVT3 on the way.....

 

So if this is true OE than the recovery disc could boot up and return the beta to a standard debug kit.

 

:shrug:

Not quite sure what you mean m8, I stated in my previous post that:

"They never made a Recovery Disc to go backwards to 'regular' Debug Kit spec"

 

Well as you said you can get unsigned code runnig on a beta live kit.Well then what kind of unsigned code have you got to run on it.Also on a beta live kit,is the eeprom the same as a real debug eeprom or is it more retail.

 

I, personally, haven't run any unsigned code on one.

 

Well, once I get a modchip on this spare live debug board i'll see if it boots with a standard debug bios. I hope i'll be able to dump the live bios and eeprom but i'm not sure if its possible to dump the onboard bios when a modchip is active.

 

Yes, it can, but now how you think it could.

I have, mech assault exploit. But since my laptop crashed, i may or may not still have the files.

It's simple to do, but there's no way in hell i'm telling you how. If you want to turn your beta live into a regular debug, trade it to me. I'll give you a standard debug mobo for it.

Not unless you're using a 29 pin chip, which isn't really necessary (see my point on the mech assault hole). An X3 won't work on a beta live (nor any debug xbox for that matter. Look into how an X3 uses the retail boot commands to boot strap it's own bios. It'll never work on a debug for that reason because it won't be able to unpack the bios.)

Riddle me this batman, beta lives use locked HD's, i hope your unit came with the original hard drive or you're screwed. Only other way to make it work is to clone the eeprom from another beta live, then extract the hd lock code, then lock a new drive to the unit. You'll also need to copy the contents from one drive to the other as the bios/dashboard are locked to each other's version numbers.

Hehehehe.... i cracked open an xbe 'fixed' it... i just have to laugh at how that was done... Just as how i had guessed in the begining. But i have to admit, it was pretty funny to watch the first time... especally since i had xbox watson hooked up and was watching the whole show.


Oldengineer has already given you the key to converting a beta live to debug. As a matter of fact, i'll give you a hint, it's in bold.

There's a ton more info on my website regarding the beta live xboxes, and alpha xboxes, and pretty much dev hardware in general... but i'm not allowed to post the link...

 

So do you use the Mech exploit to reflash the bios then use the recovery disc to install the xdk dashboard.Also you can recover your files from your broken laptop as long as the hdd is not broken.

 

No, it's much simpler then that. If you really want to know how to destroy one of the rarest produced xboxes, there are better places to ask.

Is that before or after i threw it at a brick wall 3 times?

 

Wow!

PA is back!

 

Sally, it's just a motherboard and matched HD I'd never do this to one of my complete Live Debugs.

I'm not really looking to destory the board and HD I have spare, i'm just going to dump the bios and eeprom to have a look.

 

Aparently not... account was deleted.

Guess the admins don't want me to share my knowledge here... you guys know where to find me then.... my website is the best place to contact me atm.

Answers to questions like these can be found there...