DDH, Findings, And Complete SDK

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  1. CrackNTag

    CrackNTag Rising Member

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    So far I've procured me some info from some outdated and semi-incomplete SDKs, and looking through them I've found some cool stuff:

    - The SDK Came with something called the gameOptix DDK (DVD Development Kit)

    - All the design documents are included on the Emulator CD from Nintendo for testing, and has extensive manuals on programming for it.

    - I'm sure this is already known, but there are three types of HW units; HW1, 2, and 3. 3 contains the updated Flipper chip, which I'm sure most people want.

    - DDH Comes with a PCI Card? (Hell, I didn't know this.)

    - There were more hardware units? ARTHUR and MINNOW to be precise, can be found in the OS.us.PDF manual under the OSGetConsoleType() function. Declares MINNOW to be a "A prototype system without graphics capability," and ARTHUR to be a "PowerPC 750 Evaluation Board." Kinda odd, have we seen any of these before?

    - Display functions for the GX library are quite... well, let's say, simplistic. Models and animation can be displayed in relatively few lines of code, and it seems Nintendo went all out to preserve it's usability.

    - Cygnus comes with the SDK?! Why don't you just murder GCC on Windows?



    That's about it. All of the above is probably known already, but I figured I'd share my little findings. :p

    Question, though, does a FULL SDK complete with the original IDE (CodeWarrior or gameOptix, still not sure what gameOptix is, or maybe it could be ProDG..) exist? I mean, I'm sure it has to SOMEWHERE, right?

    If anyone does have any info on what is needed for the full SDK package (Out of the box setup and ready to run development kit, AKA I can type up some code after setting it up and it'll run) please post, I'd love to make up a list and try to obtain these items.

    Regards, and good luck on the findings if I fail to produce anything new,
    CNT

    :)P)
     
  2. splith

    splith Resolute Member

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    That's all well known except the prototype hardware part.
    You need;
    Hardware unit (TDev/DDH/GDEV), Dolphin SDK, Hardware SDK (TDev = SN Systems stuff, DDH = DDK, GDEV = ?), Codewarrior IDE & license or SN Systems ProDG & license.
     
  3. CrackNTag

    CrackNTag Rising Member

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    I figured. The Prototype hardware intrigued me, and this statement found in the design doc is even more cryptic:

    NOTE: OS_CONSOLE_MINNOW and OS_CONSOLE_ARTHUR are console types used only for system bring-up
    within Nintendo and its partner companies.

    System bring-up? I haven't heard that term before...

    But, thanks. I'm sure they don't sell CodeWarrior or ProDG with the license around here, do they? I'm also pretty sure that no existing downloads for it are available... Damn.
     
  4. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I have an alpha kit, it's about 25% the speed of the normal ddh. It uses half speed controllers.
     
  5. splith

    splith Resolute Member

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    You can get both Codewarrior GC and ProDG GC, check the TDev thread for an ancient version of ProDG that's cracked.
    The keygen doesn't work with newer versions or ProDG though unfortunately :(.
     
  6. CrackNTag

    CrackNTag Rising Member

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    Hmm. Before I make a WTB request, I'll need the pros and cons of both environments. I'm sorta leaning towards ProDG but feel free to steer me to Code Warrior instead. As I'm searching for a functional dev system to experiment with (rock on, C++) I'm trying to browse around as much as I can.

    P.S: Assembler, you wouldn't happen to have any Software or Hardware you can let go for a cheap price now, would you? :)
     
  7. splith

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    I prefer ProDG as it's got visual studio intregration, and I've got a license for it unlike metroworks :).

    Someone is selling a 'beta kit' GDev from sweadon in a few days so could check back then, it needs a SCSI cable though from what I remember to connect to the ODIN card.
     
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    CrackNTag Rising Member

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    Interesting. Will PM you on the ProDG thing, because I'm starting to like it too.

    Bad part is that it has no IDE and I HATE Visual Studio.
     
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