Delete Post Bumping in Marketplace

Just wondering what the situation on this is. What I mean by the title is the practice of deleting one's last bump post in one's sales thread and then reposting it, so as to bump one's sales thread back to the top on a frequent basis.

I thought standard forum etiquette was a weekly bump was fine, but more is unnecesary and cheeky / disrespectful to others.

Why I ask is that Rod Wood did this for months on end in one of his previous sales threads (his excuse being I need to sell this stuff...what and others don't want to sell stuff in their sales threads?)!!! I spotted this as did others and we called him out on it.

Yet he seems to be doing it again in his current thread. I looked at his thread yesterday and the last two posts were a member asking for a deal on two games for £13 and one from RW. Now I look today, and again the last two posts are one re a deal on two games for £13, and one from RW posted 25 mins ago as of me typing this message. Smells like BS to me. Especially when he was called out on this by several people here and said he would stop.

So any clarification from the MODS on whether this is ok or not?

Cheers!

 

its rod_wod pal and for the last 3 days i have added new games duh

 

Well then just bump it normally. Or wait. Your behaviour stinks imo.

Edit - Without access to deleted messages I only have your word that you are adding new games (ie afaiac I have nothing as your word is zero to me, in fact less than zero, tending towards lies). I'm pretty sure these new games you added today are the same as the ones yesterday. Any chance a mod could check. I'm always happy to eat humble pie when I'm shown to be a c**t. Hell yeah, tastes good. Plus you do have form for this let's get that clear.

 

bump = ok. Bump delete then bump again = lame and harms your post count too

If you posted a bump there is no harm in keeping it there or is there? Normally when I see a lot of bumps it is becaus th items are shit and unsellable

If you want to keep all your sales in one thread fine, just bump and edit OP like everyone else, or did I misunderstand the situation?

 

Nah, what he's doing is:
1/ making a new post in his sales thread so that thread rises to the top of "new posts"
2/ deleting posts so that it doesn't appear like he's violating the 1-bump-a-week rule.

Thread stays on top, gets more views, you get the idea. Whether he's doing it now or not he unquestionably did it in the past, daily, over a pretty long period of time. It was kind of irritating, it seems like poor form to me.

 

QFT in this case!

(Not QFT all the time though. This is a specialised forum after all.)

Just to clarify as I bashed my earlier post out in a mini rage-on.
Previously he was deleting his last post in a sales thread he had up (said post being the last post in that thread), and then reposting that exact same post every day for months on end, so as to keep his sales thread at / near the top of the forum the entire time, but with no new content (or new content very rarely, and certainly not every single day).

IMO starts...
Bumps are fine, a forum staple, but in moderation.

Daily bumps are uncool. Certainly people have been slapped down in the WTB forum for bumping more than once a week, and that's only WTB.

Everyday 'sneaky' bumps to try and hide the fact you're bumping your sales thread every single day are dishonest, disrepectful to other members wanting to sell items, and a sign of someone I would never care to deal with.
IMO ends...

As that's IMO I just wanted to seek some clarity from the MODS as I suspect he may be up to his old tricks. Tbh irrespective of whether he is or isn't I'd like to clarify the bump etiquette here. If it is fine to sneak daily bump then expect to see my spare Navis for sale, at an outrageous unsellable price, at the top of the sales forum for the next 5 years. I'm joking of course, but that highlights the potential absurdity here.

(Slow day at work heh!)

 

his shite is always at the top

 

One bump per week for WTS and WTB threads!

If you have something new to add then add it to the OP and wait until a week has passed and bump again.
If you have a substantial amount of new things to or 1/2 interesting items then a bump before a week has passed would be OK.

These are just my thoughts on it though! :thumbsup:

 

This is a strange problem I never had when I was a moderator here. Did it change so people could delete their own posts, was I a tard and never noticed or maybe it's because I was a mod and never knew any better? lol

Seems to lame to do it regardless.

rod_wod if you care so much for people to see your junk, put a link to your sales thread in your forum signature and participate in the forums. If you participated more and not treat the place as a tax and listing fee free way to sell with added discussion if you can be bothered, your signature would be seen by many people and if they cared they would click the link and follow through.

Post your shit on eBay if no one wants it here as somone may want it there... unless you tried and failed that too?

Otherwise you may be in danger out outstaying your welcome I think as people are obviously not very happy about it and it is undrstandbale as to why. I have shit to sell and could do with the money but so does everyone else.

 

To be fair he does participate. His unreleased mag scan threads are sweet.

(If anything that's what irks me in part, as he seems like a good chap with a passion for unreleased game info!)

 

OK, here's my 2p worth:

• All listings in a sales thread should be in the first post ONLY.
• If new items are added to the list, edit the first post.
• If you wish, you may reply to say "added new items".
• A bump post should NEVER be edited. There's no reason whatsoever for "BUMP" to be edited. If you can't type a 4 letter word correctly and proof read it before submitting, tough!

 

Few things

1. Us mods can see deleted post.
2. 1 Bump every few days or when updates happen is fine
3. I'm actually glad people clean their sales topics for a change. Nothing worse then a sales topic with 8 bump post in it.
4. If you make a post to bump a thread & delete said post, the thread will go back to where it was previously on the site and not stay at the top.

So Bump & Delete does jack **** and if someone is abusing it by removing their post, MODS CAN SEE IT!

 

Not if they remove the previous post and keep the newest.

 

Again. WE CAN SEE THEIR DELETED POST. If they are doing it with in the span of 24 hours we can see that.

We are not stupid. We can see things you guys cant!

-edit-
Again I even went though every single one of his deleted post in that topic. If I had found something I would have burned him on it.

 

Which thread are we talking about? It was quite a while ago.

Edit: actually, fuck it, we both have better things to do.

 

:nod:

 

I thought I was losing the plot!!!

I read your post the first time seconds after you originally posted it and then hit refresh and it was gone!

So your theory appears correct.

 

Arghhhh! I just typed a massive post and then lost it. Arse.

Ok. I'll do the short(er) version now.

Subbie, unless I'm completely tripping out, you have misunderstood.

What was happening was delete then bump.

So I bump a thread of mine on Monday. On Tuesday my thread is no longer at the top, and the last post in that thread was my Monday bump. So on the Tuesday I delete my Monday bump, but then add a new bump post. The effect is two fold. My thread rises to the top again on Tuesday, but the regular forum members only see that I have bumped it the once as my Monday bump is no longer visible except to MODS, as it has been deleted.

Or am I being stupid? If so please slap me.

The thread in question is

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26464

The person concerned even states...(post 18 onwards)

ok i will only re-post when i have added something new from now on.

when I asked about the delete bumping. So he admitted he was reposting the same post (as a way to get daily bumps without a thread full of bumps).

Now I agree, the practice itself does make threads much tidier and easy on the eye and would be great if more people adopted. But in so doing one surely has to show decency and restraint. As the previous bumps are not visible to regular forum users, it could be done every day, which in the thread I link to, was the case (and I have my suspicions about that member's current sales thread too).

Is it ok to bump a sales thread every day? If so the sales forum could be carnage.

It's just a principle. All members who have sales threads obviously want to sell what they have. Each should have a fair stab at it imo, without the odd member abusing the system, which is all I was trying to highlight here.

Thanks!


Update - I just wanted to test things in case I was tripping out. So I deleted this post as above then this thread dropped down the forum. I am now reposting this post (with this Update addition) and low and behold the thread is at the top. So I have essentially bumped this thread twice in the space of 15 minutes, but unless you are a MOD, all you will see is that I have bumped it once. And that's the issue that I was trying to flag as it seems like a complete abuse of the system. (Please do check the deleted posts and you'll see I'm not making this up!

Update 2 - Just tried again. If I delete the last post in a thread the thread drops down the forum. When I repost the exact same post the thread rises. I could do this all day, and tbh if it's allowed the sales forum could become a clusterfuck of the same threads bumped every day but with only the one bump visible to all.

 

This obviously works as you can clearly see my quoted post ABOVE the deleted and reposted original!

 

Damn, I hope noone's high when they read this post!