dtl t-10000 appear to fails during play dvd games

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  1. big.four

    big.four Member

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    Hi, dear, i'm trying with basically operations, like play retail games with:

    cd /usr/local/sce/bin
    ./dsedb -r
    reset 2 100

    ...but the cube image disappear , the dvd run but and the monitor remain black.:crying:

    Could you help me?
    Hello
    Bigfour
     
  2. limey

    limey Intrepid Member

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    Ah, so it looks like you were able to find the hidden vga port.

    You might want to try a different PS2 game & see if that works. Give it a little time to work, as it can seem like nothing is happening at first.

    Try using dsedb without any arguments:
    cd /usr/local/sce/bin
    ./dsedb


    You should see a prompt displayed as shown below:
    dsedb S>

    Now type the following at that prompt:
    reset 2 100

    You should see some debugging messages displayed. If the game is failing to run, then there may be some clues here. I believe that some games do fail to run on TOOLs, although I think that I've only seen 1 (as far as I can remember).

    BTW, to finish up the dsedb session, type:
    reset 0 0

    ~Limey~
     
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  3. big.four

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    any game fails to run

    Hi,i've tried as you have been described but any game fails to start, could you help me?:crying:

    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  4. limey

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    I think that we're going to need more information to work out what might be happening.

    1) What messages are displayed on the unix side monitor, after you run dsedb?
    2) On the front of the TOOL there are some indicator lights (LEDs) - what are they showing when the TOOL is running?
    3) On the front of the TOOL, at the bottom, there is a little door - underneath are 2 switches - how are they currently set?
    4) At the back of the TOOL, there are some dip switches - how are they currently set?
    5) Is your TOOL connected to the PS2 side monitor with composite, or component cables?
    6) Which games have you tried so far?

    ~Limey~
     
  5. raylyd

    raylyd Guest

    sounds like laser pick up on it way out
     
  6. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Out of curiosity ... The tool only read MASTER DISCs, right ?
    Does it read retails ?
     
  7. big.four

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    Answer:
    1)./dsedb
    dsedb(version 0.1.65 Fri Dec 3 16:57:19 JST 1999)
    ***Resetting...
    EE DECI2 Manager version 0.06 Dec 10 1999 17:48:37
    CPUID=2e14, BoardID=4126, ROMGEN=2000-0117, 128 M
    ***DBGP Version 3.02
    (type 'help' for getting help, or 'help help' for getting help of hekp)
    dsedb S>
    2)CD/DVD Drive and tool are green , Emulator and WS are off
    3)DVD/WS
    4)off on off off on off on on
    5)composit cables (taken from a ps2 )
    6)mahunt 2, onjmusha2,naval ops warship gunners


    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  8. SilverBull

    SilverBull Site Supporter 2010,2011,2013,2014,2015.SitePatron

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    Depends on the TOOL's region.

    All TOOLs read master discs from all regions.
    Japanese TOOLs can read japanese retail game only; they do not recognize european or american retails.
    American and european TOOLs read retail games from all regions.

    Side note: certain games (like the german FFX disc I have) seem to be master discs with a PS2 region encoding. That is, you may find that certain non-japanese retail discs work even on a japanese TOOL. Either that, or my TOOL's kidding me :lol:.
     
  9. big.four

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    So.....i think that i can't answer....What is the difference between Retail and Master Disks?
    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  10. big.four

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    What do you mean?problems in the dvd reader?

    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  11. SilverBull

    SilverBull Site Supporter 2010,2011,2013,2014,2015.SitePatron

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    I think your flash ROM is quite outdated. Limey, what's your opinion?

    That could be your problem. Power the unit down, set the switches to DVD/TOOL, restart and try again.

    Retail disks have a proper region encoding. This is the only kind of game disc you can play on an unmodified retail console. Retail consoles only play retail game discs from the same region (america, europe, japan), and cannot be written on regular DVD burners.

    Master Discs are regular burned discs that contain manufacturing data (like the region the game is intended for) in special sectors. These are used by game studios in QA (e.g., to test on debugging stations), and are send to the manufacturing plant to create retail discs.

    Might be possible, but try to set the switches to DVD/TOOL first. Believe me, you don't want to exchange the laser pickup unless absolutely necessary.
     
  12. limey

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    Agreed. Hopefully, this is why Big.Four's retail discs aren't running.

    It looks older than other flash dates I remember seeing, but I'd check out the DVD/TOOL switch setting first, before worrying too much about the flash version.

    Oh yeah, that's the truth. Look through Parris' threads/guide on TOOL dissassembly for an idea of just how much work is involved in getting inside these things...
     
  13. big.four

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    Dear,Thanks!!!,have some results here!
    I've switche to DVD/Tool and if i prompt:
    Dsedb S>reset 2 100

    EE Deci2 Manager version 0.06 Oct 23 2002 16:16:35
    CPUID=2e14, BoardID=4126, ROMGEN=2003-0304, 128M
    This is not Playstation 2 disk. Ilegal media is detected.
    # TLB spad=0 kernel=1:12 default=13:36 extended 37:47
    ***Unexpected reply - type=BREAKR result=PROGEND


    I've tried more games whit the same fatal error
    waiting for you...

    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  14. unclejun

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    What is the region of your games?
     
  15. big.four

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    Italy

    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  16. limey

    limey Intrepid Member

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    Hmm. There was a thread that sounded similar to this here -> http://assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14887&highlight=TOOL+illegal
    That turned out to be a a flash ROM issue, though the TOOL in question was able to read blue CD PS2 games - have you got one of these you could try running?

    Ah, I see unclejun is here - he'll be able to work out what's happening!
    UJ, you think it might be a Japanese machine?

    ~Limey~
     
  17. unclejun

    unclejun Site Supporter 2011-2014

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    It's either a japanese unit, an old laser or the rom...
    big.four, do you have any ntsc/j games?
     
  18. big.four

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    About Blue disks

    Blue have only a dvd video final fanstasy X, it can not start, i have not others blue.
    What are blue ps2 disks?

    Regards
    Bigfour
     
  19. big.four

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    Have japanese games but all translated in italian language, i think see that they are not ntsc/j.
     
  20. limey

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    Earlier in the PS2's life, games were small enough to release on CD & some of these were released on CDs which had a blue coloured rear (data side) surface.

    unclejun is asking if you have any Japanese NTSC/J titles, because (some?) Japanese region TOOLs would only read Japanese region discs.

    ~Limey~
     
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