Durango has RAM and processors just for social apps, sometimes plays games

I was reading something the other day about how the marketing guys at GM ruined the company because they took all these dumb poser ideas about cars and made into terrible products.

Are they working on MS now? because this shit is just unbelievable: Durango has 2GB of RAM just for the OS so you can have the stock sticker running on the background of your games

I shit you not: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/digitalfoundry-the-os-factor




This is like GM cramming LCD displays all over the dashboard of a car instead of making a good car for a change.

The leaked document contains lots of bullshit that wont happen for at least 10 more years IMO, the only good idea being that you can use a durango as a home media server, but you don't need 2GB of RAM for that.

As always, Keep It Simple Stupid, why these guys have to overthink everything? why can't they just make a good console that plays games?

 

Whats the Durango? Is that the codename of the new Xbox? The article didn't seem very clear and I don't read rumors and speculation about next gen consoles.

 

Grain of salt man, Grain of Salt

 

Who are all these people demanding their console to do more? I have a laptop i don't need my console to do more. I just want to play fucking games on it.

 

Now now, Ma77 - look how that worked out for the Gamecube.

 

As already pointed out RAM is dirt cheap right now. I can get 8gb of DDR3-SODIMM for this laptop for $35 and that is the price for me as a consumer on two convenient PCBs. Just imagine what Microsoft would get for a mere 8gb at a bulk rate of a few million chips a year WITHOUT a PCB. On top of that they may be getting 2gb ICs as the price point is nice for whatever reason but the real problem being that densities are going up and the prices at the low end will go up as supply dwindles. Why do you think the later HDDs in the original XBox were 10gb but the originals were all 8gb?

The Dreamcast would've ended up the same way had it continued to try to fight the XBox except with the notable difference that SEGA was pushing online play hard very early on. Had the DC continued they too would've had cheap BBAs but there would've been far more reason for it. The real point of comparison is lack of storage that the XBox and PS2 had in spades.

 

High end games only need about 2GB to run right? It seems companies want their consoles to do more like browse the web with an on screen keyboard, without flash support etc

 

Next Gen you can order a Pizza while you play TMNT Shell shock pizza stacking on Kinect 2

 

8gb is 16x the amount in the 360.... so why is it totally inadequate?

 

If they're making it into a multipurpose multitasking machine it isn't going to do a good job as 2-4GB will be insufficient. If you have ever seen how many browser tabs ASSEMbler has open at any one time, you'll understand his concern, though such extreme users are probably a minority.

Still, if memory is so cheap they could probably seqqeze some more in there aye?

I hope the next generation gives us true 1080p60, though I'm not sure I'll have a stake in it. The HD we had thus far has been utter BS. 720p at best and 1080i at worst and the few games which can do 1080p60 are rather basic

 

2GB to OS, 6GB to games - 6gb is still 12x more than the 360 has available. its also a higher jump any any other generation I can think of.

I dont think they are stupid enough to let apps use the same memory as games - too many apps, games dont run. They will be partitioned off - games get X, apps get Y

 

Who cares if the system will have 8GB of memory. 8GB of memory is not that expensive these days. I recently bought 8GB of DDR memory for my PC which was cheap. More memory will help a hell of a lot for 1080p gaming at 60fps. You can NEVER have too much memory.

 

When companies dont put a few resistors/caps on the board to save money (x MILLIONS of consoles). Do you seriously think they will stick another 8GB (to make 16GB) in just because its "not that expensive"?

Look at what they are doing now with 512mb, now why is 8gb not enough all of a sudden and MUST have 16GB?

I dont see the reason why 16GB is a requirement for 1080p, when PC gamers have done that (and much more) with the same or less.

Sure, id like to see as much as possible in there - but I dont see why all of a sudden the very high spec isnt enough

 

512MB was a lot when those consoles got started.

By the end of life, when games really start getting good as developers learned to code to the metal effectively and the system is at its peak, the system itself becomes the problem. A lot of ports on the current systems look like ass and they had to reduce the online player count just to push their games to look as good as they can these days.

If it is perfectly affordable to add more now, it would probably lead to better products in the long run.

I paid £80 for my first 8GB DDR3 and £40 for my second 8GB. But yeah any amount of extra money across millions of console quickly adds up to an awful lot of money which makes the difference between commercially viable or not so, but no one forces the companies to take a hit on the hardware and they more than make up for it in the long run with the software sales and royalties.

 

If its going to have a 10 year life it should support atleast 4k

 

ram in a new pc in 2005 was what? 512mb or so?. average ram in a new pc now is 4-6gb?. so, its about the same imo

i think 8gb in a console today is a lot - as you said, consoles are more to metal and can be optimised to a specific configuration - unlike a pc.

obviously more is better - but these specs seem no different than other gens at launch. which is why i dont understand the its no where near enough viewpoint

 

Hmm in 2005 I was sporting 4GB RAM in my PC and an OEM copy of Windows XP x64 as were many gamers. I think 512MB was used by your average non-gamer consumer only as Windows XP ran like shit on anything less.

But yeah consoles tend to need less memory, but the issue is they are no longer a console any more. They are increasingly becoming multitasking, multimedia machines. All you need to do is imagine how much bloatware and memory leaks the system will have in 5 years time and suddenly you realise the games are going to look, run and feel like crap. A better start makes for a happier ending

 

If you had 4 GB of RAM in 2005, you were in a serious minority. Even most PC gamers probably had 1 GB, which was quite enough; 4 GB was overkill at the time.