EA is Evil ? Well we probably know that but....

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Nothing EA do anymore suprises me.

Im just biding my time as they will eventually go bust when people start getting fed up with their cookie cutter games. It might take years but it will happen.

Haha they are like borg out of star trek "you will be assimilated, your programming skills will be added to our own" "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE"

 

Oh man... sounds like Catbert really *IS* director of HR. Why don't they get sued?

 

That's an age old story.

 

Very very old.

 

Very old. What is worse is EA made a reply to it in which they praise them self and stand up for their over working their employies insted of trying to make excuses.

Tis sad but EA isn't the only studio doing this. Pretty much 70% of all major studios do this. The only studios you can work at and still have a life is the crapy 3rd part studios making childrens games.

 

What's also worse, is that the US isn't communist. Don't like it? Walk out the fucking door and get another job.

 

I don't like EA by any means, but this story is extremely questionable and very, very old.

 

Too right. I get sick of people complaining about work they chose. You don't just fall into a job in EA.

I work long hard days by anyones standards, but if it was eating up all my time I'd just go home.

 

Sometimes it is not that easy and some people do like to have a life outside of work. In California your house payment takes almost all your check and especially now jobs are not as easy to come by. I know from people in the Industry that EA is one of the worst for working their employees very long hours and if you complain your fired. Does not sound like a fun enviroment to me.

While the grass is not always greener on the other side. Sometimes people need to speak out to get a change. The EA problem is now starting to change the industry. From what I have read goverment agencies are re-looking at how programmers and others get classified so companies can not take complete advantage of a person.

 

I think game companies will always have a long line of people willing to work for them. If that's the case, expect a shitty job. The best job is the one where the employer and employee rely on each other. Both are fucked if the other is unhappy.

Shit, I worked a minimum of 50 hours a week with a lot of weekends thrown in from age 22 to 30. In Japan, those were pretty short hours too. White people are such pussies. Throw in a little overtime, and it's bitch, bitch, bitch. Now, I live on an island of lazy asses, and my < 40 hour a week work week looks like a death sentence.

 

Yes, white people are pussies.

Seriously, that was pretty damn lame.

 

OUCH... Tough audience... No Life?????? Less than 40 hours is what most people strive to attain. Could it be your bitch, bitch bitch is misconstrud for People who will not blindly follow a leader and know right from wrong. HUM.....

 

No, I'm just saying in a very round about way that we choose the lives we lead. I personally don't mind working long hours if I'm getting paid for it. I walked away from jobs where I thought I was working too much for too little. That's the way life goes. Even on the longest weeks I still found time to go to the gym regularly, play games, and of course booze and party with friends on the weekend. It was stressful, but builds character.

 

It is one thing if your overtime is taking into account on paying but another if it is not. Also, Maybe japan is easier, but here in the states it is not as easy to find another job tomorrow to pay your bills so jsut walking away is not an option. If you walk away and have a house payment due you are in trouble.

I know with EA when you get hired and you ask on how much extra time they normally say 1 -2 weeks a year but what you find is overtime is a norm and not the exception and that is not right. I know I found myself in the same boat with another company for 2 years I worked 6.5 days and the least amount of time was 12 hours a day. try finding another job when you work crazy hours is near impossible and having bills to pay you can not just walk away. I was lucky since it was a small company and my solution was to be the number one programmer on high dollar projects so my value was high enough they could not afford me quiting now I work 40 hours most weeks with some 5- 60 hour weeks but those are the exception and how it should be.

As for charecter sorry I started working when I was 12 put some years on your career and work for at least 8 years doing 75+ hour weeks and tell me it builds character. That type of road is a road to burn out not character.

In business extra effort=rewards and when both are not weighted fairly there is a problem.

 

Well, maybe your definition of hard work differs from mine. I didn't say you had to do 75+ hours a work when you're 12 (which is illegal in the states, btw) but working your ass off for not that great of pay when you're probably not qualified to do much else DOES build character. You will completely appreciate the other jobs.

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Yes, it is a problem. That's why you should quit. Finding a new job is never easy (arguably harder [or at least slower] in Japan) but you'll have to figure out a way somehow.

 

its funny to see companies employ people from india and other places because they are cheap as hell and work longer compared to americans. We do want the best pay and benefits for the lowest number of hours. However I'm sure many people around the world would take that if they were given it.

 

let me re-phrase that. I started working when I was 12. When I was 18 and for the next 20 years I put long hours in to get were I am at. When my current company hired me the first 3 years were like EA is. Long hours no or little rewards. When I hired on I asked on overtime and I was told max 4 weeks a year so I negotiaded my wags on that.

The point I was trying to make is when your in that situation it is not easy to get out. For some people it may be as easy as walk away but for most you have house payments, car payments and you have to take care of your family so you can not afford to be out of work.

After reading all the news articles on EA and the work problem it makes you happy someone did complain because now people are looking at the industry as a whole and looking for changes because whether people know it or not a very large number of sofware companies are ran as swet shops. If you plan a project right and plan appropriate resources long hours do not need to be the norm