Earthbound 3 for N64/DD64

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  1. coreycorey2000

    coreycorey2000 Spirited Member

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    You are right it surprised me to find it on 4 disks aswell. Assembler could you please post a pic of the IPLROM cart? I'd really like to know if the one i have is IPLROM or a flash cart. You wouldn't have an extra set of software would you? Do you know how to set up a system to boot this game? If so you can walk me through it. I have the mone yto pick up the pieces that I odn't have.
    Thanks again
     
  2. Flyinghigh

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    i hope the disks are not empty...
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    My ipl carts are the size of a normal n64 cart, the flash cart is about twice as long.
     
  4. coreycorey2000

    coreycorey2000 Spirited Member

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    My cart is the size of a regular N64 cart. However it is labelled with a factory label. It says N64 Disk on it. I haven't seen an IPLROM cart with a label on it yet. I've seen a couple posted online with no label or markings whatsoever. I can pick up a Flash cart right now.
     
  5. TheRedEye

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    I'll post something on the Lost Levels front page, but for the sake of making sure I have all the facts straight, what have we narrowed it down to? What exactly are you looking for/what do you need to know?
     
  6. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    wow this is so big the red eye himself has come to speak, baisicly he is seeing if he has all necessary tools to boot the disks up, that way he can find out for sure what is on it.
     
  7. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    TheRedEye has been posting every so often for a few months now ;). Hopefully, though, someone will have the resources to get this thing going.
     
  8. TheRedEye

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    Wow, neat, I'm Big. I always wanted to be Big.

    EDIT: I really really hope you're not confusing me with that thieving bastard RedEye from Edge Magazine. People confuse me for him all the time, especially considering I've written for Edge myself.
     
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  9. coreycorey2000

    coreycorey2000 Spirited Member

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    I think we've narrowed it down to needing:
    1. Partner64 Complete if possible. Definitely need the floppies.
    2. Flash Cartridge (I'd prefer it to be empty to begin with).
    3. Software for the 64dd
    4. NU64 gangwriter (needed to put ipl4rom on flash cart?)
    ? 5. Wintel box or a rare SGI Indy (with Ultra64 board) system

    I may have a chance at some of this stuff. I have to check my email from home.

    Things I'd like to know:
    1. Why 4 disks? Is it because of the 4 seasons? If so will they boot one by one?
    2. Was there a cartridge to go with them?
    3. Why was there no label used on the disks?
    4. Has anyone succesfully played a 64dd dev disk?
    5. Has anyone succesfully set up a 64dd dev kit?

    There should be many more questions I just need to think of them. There are two large discussions going on here and at starmen.net. Also emails and pms I have to go through.

    So far I have
    N64dd Dev Console
    N64 DCC and Joint
    IPL ROM cart with label
    N64DD Dev Manual
    5 Blank Blue Dev Disks
    4 Blue Dev Disks labelled Ms-KM-01 and -02 and -03 and -4 with a little s on the right side.

    That would be great if you could post something at Lost Levels.

    Thanks
     
  10. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    I half hope it isn't real. For a brief while, he'll be on top of the world, be the guy who owns Mother 3. But if he decides he doesn't want to dump it, he'll instantly become a "greedy selfish asshole" to every moron who for some reason feels entitled to play it.

    Ok, I do hope it's real...because I want to see it...but you know how people are...
     
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  11. TheRedEye

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    I dunno, I got the impression that he'd dump it if he could. And the "if he could" is the real kicker here, seeing as how no 64DD games have ever been dumped, let alone any dev carts.
     
  12. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    Yeah, it is a big if with regards to whether or not he could dump it. I don't think that coreycorey would keep it to himself just to be mean, but hey, it's his, and he just may not want to.

    I just hate how some feel entitled to play certain games...have you read one of those Atariage threads where they complain about digitpress sitting on Atari protos?

    Oh, PS, love The Lost Levels.
     
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  13. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Belive me i know your the one from lost levels, i never really read edge magazine, but i must say you guys do good work at lost levels, its nice to see that updates have recently returned.
     
  14. coreycorey2000

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    You guys are right I'm not greedy. If someone helps me I help them. Now if you've been nasty to me in the past then not much you can do now haha. Hey even people who have constantly outbid me on ebay are willing to help me on this mission. The people who are really making an effort to help me won't go unrewarded. I've run into several people who live within a days drive of me. If I can get this to play they've been offered to visit and play it. It so far has been impossible to boot a dev disk letalone dump it. I've got to attempt the first before it is possible to do the second. If I get it to boot I definitely won't keep this from everyone.

    And for the people who care. Some very nice people are helping me and I thank all of them. Some new information is going to be made public about everything in the near future ;)

    If you are only reading things at assembler you are missing some info about this from starmen.net. The discussion about it at n64.net has died possibly because I haven't signed up for an account there yet. I think I'll do that right now.

    Thanks again everyone
     
  15. TheRedEye

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    Those are especially retarded considering how very very little they're "sitting on" (such as data tapes they haven't successfully read in, tiny demos from the company THEY LEGALLY OWN [CommaVid], etc.).

    A lot of people have this elitist need to be the only person able to play a game they had nothing to do with, some people have this weird belief that holding on to a one-of-a-kind game gives it this "legendary" status and makes it more "historically valuable" than it would be if others were able to play it, and still others just mouth off about how much they paid for the damned things and how they expect everyone to pay them back before they're allowed to play with it (and money for nothing is a sweet deal, let me tell you!). I don't agree with any of these beliefs, but really, they're no more crazy than Lost Levels spending (literally) thousands to get neat games on the internet out of the kindness of our hearts, so who am I to argue.

    No one but the game's copyright holder is entitled to have a game that was never sold at the retail level, and that's that. The rest of us either have to rely on the kindness of strangers, or spend a hell of a lot of money in - let's face it, this is exactly what it is - the black market.

    This rant doesn't really have a point. Thanks for the compliments guys, cheers!
     
  16. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    I think we're pretty much on the same page...it's a double ended sword.

    Copyright owner still owns the game...so the screaming idiot who demands to play it is just as entitled to play as the guy who owns it...neither of them are really entitled, but it's a matter of who has access to it.

    This is one of those topics which I've never been able to sort out in my mind...and I still don't know what I'd do if I owned some highly sought after unreleased game. I'd like to think that I'd be nice enough to release it...but why is anyone else entitled to play it...then why would I be entitled to play it instead of anybody else...and what about the load of money I'd spend on it.

    Just thinking about it drives me nuts.

    Edit: Almost forgot the most important part! Coreycorey, good luck! Glad to hear your finding the help you need. Keep us updated!
     
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  17. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    That is a load of questions.

    I have a complete setup as far as 64 and DD.
    There are MANY pitfalls to trying out DD disk, namely screwing up the disk. However , if the discs are what they are supposed to be, all of the problems have been solved just for them to get to master disc.

    Which brings to light the question of if the game wasn't "finished" why are they making master disks?

    I can load up a system and check the disks for you if you don't mind
    1. Trusting me 2. Waiting the considerable time it takes for me to config the system here.
    It takes a bit of work, I'll have to build a windows 95 environment machine.
    And I haven't used the partner in along time since way before my "zero" problems. However, I am sure all the brains here can plough our way through the commands and if it's legit hack it for flash rom cart.
    I can back up the disks, I have boxes of the blue disks here.

    It also seems you have most of the parts. We just need to collect the correct apps for you.

    To clear up what you need, I dug up this illustration from my docs which is probably stolen by now and on a half dozen web sites...



    [​IMG]
     
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  18. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    coreycorey i must say you have been very generous to be taking on this task, my hat goes off to you and wish the best of luck.
     
  19. TheRedEye

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    What does some false pretense of "entitlement" have to do with you just being a cool guy, sharing what you're fortunate enough to have, and making people happy? I really don't get this "I worked harder for it" mentality. To me, once I'm over the excitement of being Indiana Jones and discovering something special and new, I specifically want to see how other people react to it. Seeing people actively playing and discussing and enjoying the game I found is much more gratifying to me than being able to brag about having something you don't.
     
  20. Blur2040

    Blur2040 Game Genie

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    I'm not just speaking about my entitlement, I'm speaking about anyone's entitlement. I'd sit there looking at the game, and wonder if I should even have it let alone anyone else. I don't think I'd be more entitled to the game than anyone else. I would feel uneasy keeping a game to myself like that, but I would also feel uneasy putting out there to be sold on eBay on Rom discs...and whatever other bad things might happen to it...

    I'd feel sort of fatherly about it, I'd want to give it away those who would appreciate it the most.

    Edit: I just realized that the fatherly thing is a bit of bull...though someone might feel like they created something when they dug it up and discovered it...if it actually belongs to the copyright owner instead of Joe Collecter, he has no right to give it away. It's just a tough issue, and I'm sort of just weighing the sides here.

    I think karma would win on my side, and I'd release it not with the mentality of doing something good for gamers, but with the belief that my life would be no better as the exclusive owner of a prototype, and therefore would be no different if I gave it away.
     
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