eBay bull#@&%

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  1. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    So recently I posted a copy of Rosetta Stone Japanese on eBay. Guess what? They pulled it. Their reason? "Copyright infringement." Not sure what that meant or what it had to do with my auction, I sent an email to the organization eBay said was responsible for removing the item, the BSA (Business Software Alliance).

    They told me it was removed because "Rosetta Stone’s End User License Agreement expressly states that the license to use this product is non-transferable." How the fuck can that be legal? So now, a product that I legally own is worthless to anyone but me? That's utter bullshit. I don't see how they get away with shit like that. I swear, it's like businesses have more rights than people in this country.

    I read that they had passed a law like that, but I didn't think it had actually passed or that they were enforcing it. I have a feeling eBay (as in the company, not the people who use it) benefits from this whole scheme somehow.

    Another thing that makes no sense is that there are several copies of Rosetta Stone Japanese on eBay, and they haven't pulled those. Some of them are even the same version, and some of them sold.

    If I need to tone down my language, let me know. Seems appropriate, though.
     
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  2. Xeauron

    Xeauron Intrepid Member

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    Exactly, once you've finished with their product they would rather you burned or binned it. Just you wait, games companies have been poking and prodding at doing this for some time now and have started to encroach into this territory with having to buy the 'online licence' in order to play.

    Next they will creep this shit into their EULA and hey presto you'll be in the same boat when trying to sell your games. Though I think the reason it's taking them a hell of a lot longer to apply this to games is because there will be a massive uproar when they do.
     
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    Vosse Well Known Member

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    It's the same kind of shit as with Samplers and Synthesizers by companies like East West.

    It's absurd, But what can you do?
     
  4. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    But it's the legal copy right? Why should that matter? I can understand if It was a bootleg or something.

    I've seen (used) versions of Microsoft Office listed before... Of course those type of people never get caught.
     
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  5. Martin

    Martin Resolute Member

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    You can't buy something, install it, then sell it on. It's the same as selling a computer with loads of software installed.
     
  6. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    I think the same thing applies to Adobe Creative Suite too. The license is non-transferable - hence, if you've used it the EULA states you can't sell it on.

    Luckily in the UK, this stipulation is usually overruled by consumer rights law which states that by purchasing an item, you have the right to resell it. EULAs are worth nothing more than the paper they were printed on (at least, until there is a law stating otherwise).

    I kind of feel sorry for the team at eBay in a way, as the explosion of popularity (and scammers) in the community has created endless headaches for them in terms of copyright laws and VeRO. However, it still doesn't explain why people are getting shafted for selling legitimate software whilst I've been short-changed twice by people selling counterfeit goods on eBay (which, luckily, eBay ruled in my favour).
     
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    Matthijscoman Fiery Member

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    If this is the case, just relist the auction on ebay.co.uk. Sounds like a decent loophole.
     
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