Estimating remaining life of save batteries by voltage?

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  1. Xan01

    Xan01 Active Member

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    Is this possible, to some degree at least? For instance, I measured a couple SNES and N64 batteries with 1995-1999 dates at around 3.07-3.08V. Is there any kind of cutoff point where it's expected to lose the data?

    Interestingly enough I also have a Metroid 2 with 92-01 marking on the battery and that one has the highest voltage of the ones I tested at 3.27V.
     
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  2. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

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    can you look up the data sheet for the memory
     
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    Not possible due to how Lithium batteries work (talking primary batteries aka disposable ones):

    When they're depleted they actually deliver less and less current, they keep the voltage until they're almost 100% depleted which means the voltage will fall very fast and very near the absolute end of life.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    There's a way to test in the datasheets. Short battery with 100ohm resistor for 2 seconds, then monitor how fast the voltage goes back up.

    But it means removing from cart and losing save anyway.

    So basically, just replace them every 5-10 years to be safe.
     
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    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Thanks for this, good sir. I'll keep this useful information in mind for when I need to test these batteries.
     
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    No problem, basically attach multimeter to both terminals of battery, short with resistor. Voltage shouldnt drop below 2.6 (approx - may vary by brand) and should recover to approx 3v within a second or so.

    Drops below ~2.5v = replace
    takes long time to recover = replace

    To use the full capacity, the voltage gets down to around 2v. But like you said, its like a cliff. Once its dropping below ~2.5v its not long for this world.

    But again, only useful out of circuit.
     
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    Is there non volatile memory compatible with these carts?
    I know there is some compatible with the save packs for n64
     
  9. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    You could potentially use FeRAM I think but doing so makes no sense. Just use a device to backup your save data from the cartridge, then replace the battery and restore your data. It's not a big deal.
     
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