As topic, do you think the GC is actually (or will be in a short time, and if so, in how much) dead? With only a few big games left, i think that's brutal, but true.
It's definitely thinning out, but here in there's still Zelda, Odama, and Chibi-robo for those of us in the US. As long as the revolution comes out shortly after Zelda, I'll be good.
I think the Gamecube is pretty much at this point a dead system. If anything Zelda is more of a parting thank you for those who stuck by the system.
I am a real Nintendo FANBOY but even I have to say it is now on it`s last legs. I don`t know what they are going to do in the time between now and revolution. Despite so many hand held variants and older ISP this still can`t really keep the boat floating. I really hope that the excitement & anticipation that seems to be quite widely spread for the Revolution keeps in the forefront of everyones mind as I really think that it could be Revolutionary. However if it fails.........could they join Sega as a publisher? I sincerely hope they don`t!
Woah, dch, gotta disagree on the revolution. So you have written it off before we have seen a single game for it? We haven't even seen the controller in action and a judgement has been already been passed? Sorry but I'm excited by the concept, when the games start coming then we shall see. I am currently sold on Nintendo's pitch, even if we have yet to see it solidify. As for the gamecube it did have a fairly good start to things and there are a good number of solid games. But I haven't brought a GC game since kuruin and there is nothing coming as such, that is getting me excited. Although Odama looks quite good, as does Zelda. I do like the GC in terms of hardware and the "Q" will never be put in its box as far as I'm concerned. But software looks very, very weak at the moment. EDIT - damn my foolishness, forgot Baten Kaitos 2, the original went down as one of my top ten games of all time and seeing as number 2 looks like an extension of the original, I am very excited about this. Nintendo may start delaying these top games over time so that there is at least one quality game a month or something.
They still have pretty solid line-up for the end of this year, with a few good games for Q1 to pave the way for Zelda. After Zelda Revolution will take over, but GameCube games will still be released/re-released, mainly due to Revolution's BC and the effect that will (hopefully for Nintendo) be Zelda.
True. That's not a small point either : making Revo RC means you can still publish your planned GC games that otherwise would be canned. Nifty.
I love Cube, but I have to agree...it's on it's way out...they're all on their way out...PS2, XBox, Cube...the end is near! Repent, sinners! Honestly, I'm glad to see the next generation come. Sadly enough, at the young age of 20, I feel that I've played pretty much everything. One of the most exciting times I have left is the launch of a new console...and I'm mega pumped for Revolution. So much new stuff coming with it. Motion sensing...wireless...totally different controller design...waaay different look for a Nintendo console. Let's just hope it has the games to back all of that up!
Just because nintendo is #3 it doesn't mean that they didn't make a profit on the gamecube. Many products have more that one competative manufatuers, a good example is camera companies. Nintendo knows that they will not be #1 for now and I am sure they have planned for it finacially. Until nintendo starts sharing techinology or makes buisness agreements with sony and microsoft, they are technically doing just fine as #3
Yea, Gamecube is almost completly dead at this point. With the only games left to look forward to that are exclusive being (imo): (12/08/05) Bleach GC! Tasogare ni Namieru Shinigami (12/31/05) Naruto Ninja Gekito Taisen 4 (04/??/06) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (??/??/??) Kirby Adventure Other then those: Chibi Robo - Looks good if it comes out at $20-30. Odama - doesn't look that great to me. Baten Kaitos II - Looks beautiful like the first, but im not so sure about the battle system. Giftpia - Is still on N's website for a US release, but at this point it's not looking very likly.
I wrote off the GC, too, before it even launched. I hate to say it and I hate to see it, but without Pokemon and Gameboy variances, Nintendo would be no better off than Sega at this point. Considering the deep, DEEP pockets they are fighting against in MS and Sony, I seriously think that they too will be a software developer at some point (once again, the GB incarnations throw this for a loop).
I disagree. Nintendo, unlike pretty much all other game companies, turn a profit on all their consoles. They have 20+ years of experience, and know how to keep the costs down. The fact that the consoles are not number one sellers is irrelevant since they turn a profit, and thats precisely what profit making companies are supposed to achieve. I also doubt they would ever become software only. Perhaps they would drop either handhelds or consoles, but not both - also, their hardware is their strong point - Zeldas, marios etc, the big sellers would not work if nintendo did not design the hardware themselves - like how os x works better on macs than windows on PC's - total control So long as the revolution keeps turning a profit, then there is nothing to worry about
Well the thing is, nintendo can get itself in a position where it doesn't need to compete with MS and Sony. I think nintendo is going to settle into a smaller scale company that produces products on a smaller budget, therefore it is not going to be losing any money because it isn't directly competing with sony, on the sony dev scale. The revolution is nintendo trying something new in the gaming industry and splitting from the pack, they have shown that direct console competition doesn't work against the likes of sony, so they are trying a new idea. The fact is that most of the non-gamers of the world are more likely to buy into a cheaper, simpler machine then splash out on the 360. Consider the revolution perhaps to be the complete opposite of the NEOGEO aes, ie, cheap and easy to access. I hope that Nintendo are learning from early death of the GC, there is a reason why my ps2 games outnumber it by a factor of 20-1. I say try a new concept that is akin to the gameboy, gameboys were popular not because they were portable per se, but because they opened gaming to everybody in a simple manner, for example, you don't need a tv or extra controllers, it is utterly self-contained. For gaming to be accepted on the level other mediums are in society it must be open and understandable to all. I really hope the revo doesn't suffer from the same fate as the GC, or that people will compare it to other consoles. It is trying to be an utterly new concept so it cannot fail against the PS3, because it is not competing against the PS3. The revo success depends not on whether we, as the hardcore, like it or not. Nintendo is relying on new markets that would never, ever buy a PS3, buying a revo. Hell if this fails for nintendo, then they can survive just by sticking to the handhelds, well one can hope anyway.
I completely agree, with the addition that I can imagine nintendo aiming to be a 2nd console - so people will buy either a PS3 or X360, and a rev to go with it. They achieved this a bit with the GC, and I expect them to extend this with the revolution. This has to be achieved by having unique, exclusive games - which the controller almost forces devs to do, so this is a mighty good start.
The ideal position for nintendo is really the ultimate commercial console, a la gameboy which hit the non-gamer demographics like no other console. Then the hardcore and the techies/richer gamers can have their ps3 as well. The purpose and design of the consoles is so different to warrent co-existence, they don't really infringe on each other's markets. I would like to see the game market diversify beyond the current model, where as consoles compete on graphic capabilities, it is nice to see a competition based on design and capabilites. Can't wait for the first details of games to come out, nintendo can only hold onto the hype around the controller for so long.
I can really see Nintendo trying to infuse their console segment with the success they have on their handheld segments, and vice versa. Like three intertwined 'pillars'... Nintendo DS >< Revolution connectivity could be much better this time, and a possibile next GameBoy might incorporate the entire Virtual Console aspect of Revolution (upload your games to play on the go).
