GD-R's for sale!

I'm torn, I agree retr0 and Vitamen got good points - but then, adam-james is free to do what he wants with his GD-Rs, although he'd have better luck putting em on ebay and not here as it only leads to bitching :Hangman:

 

I don’t mind the bitching... everyone is allowed to share their view...
I knew selling them on here would piss a few people off, and I’m sorry for that, but bitching aside, I’ve sold 10 here already...

I’m not even planning to sell them all... some I’m using for my Dreamcast game and some I just want to keep untouched for the coolness factor.

I’m not a money grabbing bastard, i just saw a great opportunity and took it, as I’m sure many of you would have done.

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They were worth more sealed

 

Maybe the people moaning about the mark up should argue the same case with every store they go into.

Adam has the right to do whatever he wants with the GDR`s

I`m sure almost every user here has at some time bought something for cheap and popped it up on ebay to make a profit.

 

sininc that's not the arguement.

Legit offered these discs individually. I believe adam contacted him and said he doesn't want to see them split, how much for the lot? Please reserve them for me.

This meant no board member could buy at £15 each (or cheaper for more). This was good cuz it was staying as a rare spindle.

However, as soon as he gets them, he splits them and sells them ON THE SAME BOARD for £25 each... now that's a markup of £10 per disc, or £500 total. HOWEVER, he only paid £500, which means a markup of £750.

He told legit a fib to get the lot cheap before anyone else, so he could sell to everyone else for more than Legit was. In other words, he thought Legit was selling too cheap and would rip off the very people Legit was advertising to.

Sure, buy something in Japan and sell on ebay for more (but ppl still moan about those sellers!)... buy something in cash converters and sell on ebay, or here, for a profit. What I'm saying... DON'T buy something on here, then IMMEDIATELY try to sell it on HERE with a grotesque mark-up!

 

dude, with respect, save your ranting for the Off Topic board.. this is a trade thread.

 

I never took too much shit for that. Then again, most people I was selling too weren't paying $700 USD to live in a 30 year old shoebox either.

 

I don't see anything wrong with it... however people have grumbled on here before about those lucky enough to be able to order on Yahoo Japan, only to put the item straight onto eBay UK/US for a great deal more! (i.e. people who make enough to live off that)

 

Yeah, I hear you. Those certain people should probably keep a few thins in mind.

I definitely didn't make a living off of it, but it was a very high paying 2 hour a day hobby 4-5 years ago, before everyone else got wind of the idea. (early bird gets the worm).

Not to sound like a cock, but those people "lucky enough" most likely also got to put up with:
-rent triple that they'd be paying in their respective country
-$1 apples
-everything else costing double
-international long distance to talk to their family
-ridiculously long work hours
-crappy pay unless you're an Engrish prostitute (which I wasn't)
-crap TV
-6 months to see movies
-local phone bills out the ying-yang (I was selling before DSL, and my local phone bill was like $175+/mo due to online gaming)
-Most ebay sellers don't ship internationally either!!!!!

Also keep in mind that there's no consideration of all the translation that goes on when you surrogate bid... something that traditionally costs a premium. I'm also ignoring the time factor.

I always saw the YJ->Ebay one of the perks of living here, and that making a buck was no big deal (I undercut everyone else anyways, so the buyers never complained).

They say "nothing is free in Japan", and for once, they may be right.

 

So, now all the ranting is (hopefuly) out of the way... is anyone else intrested in buying some GD-R's?

I have just over 30 left now...

Let me know here, or mail me: adam-james@station6.org

 

Gaijin, I find that a lot of those Japanese sellers are indeed Japanese, not foreigners who live there. Unfortunately, the one thing they should remember is that it looks bad when you have very bad English on your eBay items

Does sound like living in Japan is harsh, sure. Is there anyone who makes a living out of exporting games from Japan at premium prices?

 

One must be pretty desesperate to buy a single GD-R for 25 pounds!

I have 13 of them. Each company who developped DC games probably had hundred of them, and it is CERTAIN that they did not burn everything.

Guys, learn to wait for good occasion. It's not like your collecting life is gonna fall part if you miss that chance of getting ripped off. Just wait, maybe 1 months, maybe 5 years, and you can get many things for cheap. We're talking about a mass-produced developper media here, not about some obscure DC prototype.

And now I wonder why people are so excited about a sealed lot. Sure you can appreciate and cherish your video games items, but don't stare forever at stuff you cannot use. LeGit was bragging about his sealed lot for months and then sold the thing. That's just a proof of how useless is a sealed lot of GD-R. Better buy games or more interesting stuff for that insane amount.

That was a rant, but a hope to open a healthy debate and avoid everyone getting ruined. Enjoy games (more than unusable GD-R!).

 

I have been watching this thread for a while with no little indignation, and I feel it's time for my 2 cents to be added to the communal pot, as it were.

Adam-james, you are in no way violating any terms of this board or anything remotely close. Your sale of the GD-Rs is entirely, for lack of a better word, Legit (pardon the pun) and as such, there's no reason for this thread to be locked or deleted.

If it were up to me, however, it would be.

I take severe offense at this entire thread, mainly because you're treating us like we are all flat-out stupid, and you are selling in a VERY dishonest manner that sure as hell isn't going to win you any friends with this board. One of your main concerns for buying the spindle from Legit was to keep the spindle from being split up, which I suppose a lot of people on this board would have done for the sake of collectability. However, to turn around and sell said spindle of GDRs individually for greatly increased price is not only a flat out cheat, but a lie as well. And then you further have the nerve to post comments like "dude, with respect, save your ranting for the Off Topic board.. this is a trade thread" or "So, now all the ranting is (hopefuly) out of the way... is anyone else intrested in buying some GD-R's?" when someone voices their righteous indignation over this flat-out chicanery.

Again, nobody can prevent you from selling these GD-Rs here, as it violates no rules, but I would think you'd have the tact, decency, and respect for everyone here to at least peddle your marked-up wares outside of this board, on eBay or something similar.

That being said, I agree with Omar - GD-Rs are going to pop up, and I urge people to wait for those occasions instead of supporting this effort. What you do with your money is ultimately up to you, and I am not going to further impede the attempted sale of these GD-R by adding to this thread. However, to reiterate, I am less than pleased with this blatant disrespect being shown to us, and I know that a few others (who may identify themselves if they wish) that I have talked with share similar opinions.

 

These days, they are. I've not auctioned anything for months, and most likely won't again. Neogeoman still posts stuff from time to time.

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These days? No way... not unless they run a shop. Even back in the day when I was one of the only (or perhaps the only) I made about $1k a month after taxes. I was probably selling 200-300 pieces a month. Yawara was the only other guy that I know had a connection IN Japan. I'm pretty sure he runs a shop based on his Ebay feedback, but he must've had other sources of income.

That was then -- fast forward to now, an there's just way too much competition. For what it's worth, the spread in prices between Ebay and YJ is not that big. Between Ebay and Akihabara is even smaller. As someone stated in the main board - it's a buyer's market for imports. Yamatoku has the best of both worlds. It's a used game shop in Ichikawa, so can buys (almost everything) off of Yahoo japan, and sells on Ebay and out of their shelves.

EDIT:
Miscalculation

 

Reporting in! I think I couldnt have expressed my opinion any better than you did :smt023

 

This is totally disrespectful to he collectors of this board and if I had my way you would recieve no favours whatsoever of a board member again.You have burnt a lot of bridges here and all for the sake of a dollar.

Go to ebay with shit like this in future and leave this trading thread for what it was designed for,to allow collectors to trade at fair prices without the markup of evilbay.

 

The guys from HK already get the best deals,you couldn't compete with them.Opening a business in japan is also a pain in the ass.Margins on games for smaller retail shops got very low within the last few years, many dealers closed because of that.

And again: living in japan is really shitty if you don't life way outside the big cities.You pay lots of rent for a shoebox of appartement and have to work all day and may get fired when your boss thinks you are too old.If you're an english teacher it could even get worse because some of the companies really try to rip you off and fuck with you because they know they have the full control over you.

So you better make up your mind before thinking about going to life in the country of your dreams with all the nice video games and hot japanese bitches who don't care how ugly you are as long as you are a white/black gaijin because your living situation could get a lot worse there.

Sorry for the off topic stuff here.His prices are the rule of the market,if there's no interest they may drop and it's his good right to sell them for whatever price he likes.

 

HK isn't really part of the equation. The Japanese shops let them sell all over the world, while the Japanese shops just don't bother for some stupid reason. If a Japanse shop would actually have the balls to ship abroad,
they'd give Lik Sang a run. Hiring English staff would be the first speedbump. There's no way an HK buyer gets stuff cheaper than the big Japanese buyers. Hell... if I had enough preorders, I could go down to my Bic Camera, buy 10 copies of a game, sell them at Lik Sangs prices, make money and also get points on my card... (and I'm not buying in bulk).

No more than any other country. I know foreigners tha've opened up small businesses. You just have to be familiar w/ the laws.

I don't quite understand this... I know of like 2 small used game shops that have closed within the last 5 years. I'm sure there's more, but I'd say it's more coincidence then anything. If anything, shops are hurting b/c of moving less product due to the boost of online sales and auction sites in Japan (late bloomers) -- the margins have more or less stayed the same (or even gotten larger in some cases it seems).

I know you didn't mean anything personally, but you basically just shat on where I've lived for the last 7 years -- and to be honest, I wouldn't live anywhere outside the city.

Getting fired in Japan is a dream! I was! You get a shitload of cash!

If you let someone take advantage of you like that, then you deserve to... basically b/c it's a big bluff. There's no shortage of English classes, and definitely no shortage of schools. That shit happened back in the day -- it doesn't happen now. Teaching jobs grow on trees here... if your boss tries to rule your life, tell them to fuck off and walk out the door. They can't do shit... they can't even revoke your visa b/c THEY get in trouble, not you.

Honestly, Japan has a better situation than just about any other country (especially the US, UK, and from what little I know - Germany) in terms of employment. You guys have to give what? 18 months notice to quit? (yeah, I know that's an exagerration, but it is ridiculous.) In Japan, you just walk out the door. If you're a fulltime employee, your employer has to pay you off bigtime to get rid of you. I don't know of any other country that has that... definitely not America.

I know where you're coming from, but I think you've basically low-balled every possible problem that could arise when living here. I moved here a dirt-poor college grad with an expensive hobby (more expensive than games - wasn't into games when I came here), and did just fine. I met my wife who wouldn't be caught dead in places that serve to "hot bitches who don't care how ugly you are", went from some bullshit paper-pushing job to making... well... a lot more. Learned a hell of a lot of stuff on the way, not to mention made life-long friends.

Japan is just like anywhere else -- it is what you make of it. If you predict a bunch of negative shit will happen -- guess what. You're going to be knee-deep in it. Stick your nose up and rise to the challenge, and your career can sky-rocket.

Sorry if that got out of hand.... wasn't this thread dead anyway?

 

oh. may be i'm special one?
1. low than offical price(yen change to HK) buy game stuff or japan product.
2. i have few friend working in japan and 2 is my Girl friend.
3. no people will go Lik Sang to buy, coz they mark up 10-20% stree price~
4. even no buyer in japan, no friend in japan, only pay US$450(HK$3200)can go to japan shopping, in here, alot of people also is that to go japan buy stuff ans sell it in they shop.

5. please come to Hong Kong see what it they work here berfore you ask .

 

HK Companies get really good deals and of course they don't sell for the lowest possible price.You could make some money but their margins are a lot bigger.Japanese can't get any accessories cheaper and Lik Sang gets their games for the same price japanese chains get it for.

There are countries where that is a lot easier.

Ask NFG about it.The market is controlled by big chains,in the middle of tokyo you'll have more luck keeping your business but especially in europe the closings were extreme in the last years.The prices just got too low.

Living conditions compared to europe or america regarding to appartment sizes etc. .But it's just my opinion tho.

You don't neccecary get a settlement and even if you get one and don't find a job you are fucked because the country won't help you make a living until you find a job again.

That's just what I've heard a lot lately.I never was and never will be any kind of teacher.

In europe you have the biggest protections as an employee,especially in germany.In amercia there is basicly no protection.Even if you get fired in germany,you get up to 80% of your income as welfare from the country until the end of your life.It's getting a bit harder now but you won't have to life on the street or kill yourself like many people in japan.

In general japan is a racist country ,with a racist government and with even more retarded people than I've seen anywhere else.But that's just my opinion of course and the exeptions confirm the rule.

Just my opinion, I don't mean to piss anybody off :smt023