Genesis 2 pin 107 examination

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    This thread is a work in progress. It's not so much about the mod as it is the
    mechanics of the mod.

    While researching this mod I took out a board and my trusty G10 and took some
    clear pictures.

    We know that shorting pin 107 to ground causes Japanese language mode.
    However, what is connected to what is interesting as well.

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    The board.

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    Pin 107. Some guides ask people to lift the pin away from the board. This is unnecessary and overcomplicated. One can use a solder sucker to remove solder from the eyelet, then carefully drill out the connecting eyelet. Solder the switch to the now isolated top eyelet and somewhere on the large bottom trace which has many common points.

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    This is the bottom of the board, where pin 107 meets a common broad layer. The voltage is a bit of a question in my mind as so many components
    use this trace. Roughly 5V
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    Many components connect to the broad bottom trace.

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    This is only labeled 107 for the sake of continuity. The top is more interesting.

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  2. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    So what does this examination bring to light exactly? It is a bit interesting that a lot of components are along that trace, but I don't know....
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Most people think the lack of 5V is what creates the language mod.
    In reality, it's lack of ground.
     
  4. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    A large trace area like that makes sense that 107 would be ground. I just didn't want to say anything since I'm no electrical engineer to know this stuff off hand, so I might have been wrong if I were to state that assumption from your pictures earlier.
     
  5. c_rpg

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    Isn't the trace just VCC? The trace provides power to the ic's, the two capacitors are used to smoothen the 50/60Hz ripple out of the signal. The led lights up when power is on. Jap language would then be achieved by a digital low to pin 107, connecting it to a digital high would set it in English mode.
     
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  6. TmEE

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    I've been "drilling" the hole underneath the board and soldering a wire on top of it for quite a while... pin lifting is absolutely unnecessary and dangerous.

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    sorry for huge pics, I don't know if here's resize tags...
     
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  7. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    That audio board gives me nightmares of carpet fires...

    @C_rpg what do you think the threshold is?

    Here's another refinement to the mod, all you need do is drill a small dimple over the bottom of 107 and isolate it.

    The large trace on the top is big enough to tap into without worrying about starving something.

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    I guess 2,5V since it's CMOS. 3,7V would be ideal for a high level and on 1,3V you'd get a guaranteed low. The asic does work with 5V vcc doesn't it?

    Isolating the pin works in this case but it is an unwritten law in electronics that you don't do that. An unconnected pin can sometimes lead to strange behavior of the device.

    @TmEE: Clever of you to use hf shielding on the audio mod. I always hated how distorted the Genesis sounds.e
     
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    Haha, TmEE, I can never get enough of that franken-md of yours :icon_bigg I'm surprised it's still running with all those mods!
    -ud
     
  10. drakon

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    I lifted the pin (for the challenge). I got a spare genesis 2 for 15$ so I decided to give it a go. I was going to try to desolder that tiny thing. I pushed the two pins next to it as far away as possible. Then I foced the pin from behind away from the chip with an exacto knife and it just came off like that. Works fine. It was actually easier than I expected. How it connects to the components and how it works I'm really not sure. And how they discovered this trick again I'm not sure.
     
  11. BlockABoots

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    I know this is a extremely old thread, but i have come across an MegaDrive 2 in my collection that has pin 107 snapped off (i guess who ever owned this MD2 tried the mod and failed) so what options do i have now?.

    From my understanding Pin 107 is for Japanese language, so with pin 107 snapped off the system will boot into JPN mode all the time?

    Is there another place on the MD2 (Model VA 1.8) that can be used instead of pin 107 at all??
     
  12. fluxcore

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    AFAIK no, you'll probably need to dremel off the top of the chip to expose some of the leg and solder to that. Which is... fiddly.
     
  13. APE

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    Yep. It looks pretty ugly but it'll work. My suggestion is to practice at least once on a dead something because it's a weird sensation to grind into a chip. There is a considerable amount of casing to get through before you get to the one pin you need as you're removing all of the casing straight down to the trace inside the thing. As long as you go slow and gently while checking every time you push the grinding attachment down you'll be fine.
     
  14. dc16

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    What is wrong with people that they gotta keep poking at Pin 107? There is a freakin' trace right there. All you have to do is make sure that trace doesn't connect to 5V or ground. What I did for my first Genesis 2 Region Mod was scrape away the connection. Scrape more gently at another part of the line to expose more of the copper. Then tin a thin wire with solder and solder to surface like padhacking a PS1 controller.
    I thank Assembler for his hard work in telling us where 107 goes, because maybe we'll find an easier method.
     
  15. BlockABoots

    BlockABoots Gutsy Member

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    I'll give it a go, ive got a new method for a single switch 50/60 and Lang mod to try out
     
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