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  1. richi902

    richi902 Robust Member

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    what still sounds ok is austrian accent, the bavarian part, but no vienna accent, it sounds like their falling asleep while talking.

    @asm2psx welchen dialekt im osten meinst du genau? oder einfach alle lol.

    strange here in hungary(vacation) are many people from east germany (saxony, thuringia) but not so many from bavaria and austria which is kinda next door o_O.
     
  2. Goemon

    Goemon AG Member since 2005!

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    There are many, many people in germany who are in difficult situations. A few millions just get like 450 Euro per month here so naturally these people can not afford a trip to the US, Canada or Australia.
    Therefore you wont meet such people in your valley ;)

    @syntax error just because people have a bad situation does not mean they are dumb! it is true however that there are also many idiots out there and just watching Hartz4 TV.
     
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    Didn't know there is a Hartz4 TV or do you mean the TV brain washing shows like Familien im Brennpunkt or Trovatos
    , Detektive decken auf lol.

    Anyways, here in Austria there are also a lot of people in difficult situations, but I heard from one of my friends that he gets more money when he is unemployed so he just does that.

    I cannot afford to be unemployed, having 3 kids(4th on the way) is a bit a burden but it's also fun.
     
  4. Goemon

    Goemon AG Member since 2005!

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    Yes i mean that and more worse shit. We like to call it Hartz4 TV :D
    Basicially everything you see on RTL and RTL2. Also lots of shit on Sat1 and Pro7.
    I stopped long ago to watch TV on purpose.
     
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  5. Tatsujin

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    The one kind of TV that makes its daily audience even far dumber as it already is. Sad but true.
     
  6. Goemon

    Goemon AG Member since 2005!

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    Do you feel ashamed? Why? Were you there?
    Sure this was something very very bad and should not be repeated. No human deserves the pain the people have suffered back then.
    Everybody on this planet should take this time as a exhortation and think about not to harm other people just because the are different looking or pray to other goods.
    However, most of that criminals who caused all that pain and chaos back then are dead by now and i think WW2 is part of history now.
    Nothing to be ashamed anymore.
     
  7. G0dLiKe

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    Oh lol, got you.

    But this kind of reality xD shows has been a lot more some years back, there has been a shitload of those talk shows and pseudo adventure shows and those court series like Barbara Salesch and Richter Hold. Lol

    And yes watching those stuff let your brain shrink.
     
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  8. richi902

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    Die scheiße gibt es auch in österreich? lol
     
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    Ja so ist es.
     
  10. ave

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    I agree, and no, I do not feel ashamed. But you have to agree that Germany is having an "official" stigma because the country was later turned into seemingly also the only big enemy in WW2 (who would think of the Japanese, Ukrainians, French, Italians when it comes to genocide and antisemitism?). Maybe most people don't feel directly "ashamed", but compared to other countries, I think we do keep our achievements pretty low-key, don't you agree? We have great technology, freedom of speech, amazing social welfare, dense infrastructure, high precision and a lot more, but hardly anyone would go out and say they are a proud patriot and that "Germany is the best country in the world" - something the average Joe in the US does on a daily basis without thinking. Despite their disastrous welfare-system, below-average architecture, crappy technology and hilariously corrupted politics.

    It's not that I feel the need to be as proud as an American, I just think that it is outrageous that a such as Greece is calling us nazis (in newspapers!) just because we do not fund their corrupt regime right away when they finally fucked themselves over! Then again it is significantly less popular to mention Stalins murderous regime when they make a controversial decision. Most countries are responsible for reasonable amounts of murder, but the stigma of shame still sticks mainly to Germany IMO.
     
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  11. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    HARTZ4 and "1-Euro-Jobs" aren't all that great either. And food stamps keeping the poor from buying booze and huge-ass TVs are an idea I probably could get behind very easily.

    Just a few weeks ago, our politicians prevented an investigation regarding corruption (apparently it's voluntary or sth? dunno the details). For the fourth time. Honi soit qui mal y pense...

    And don't get me started about Greece, you don't even want to know how much excess infrastructure and other stuff they didn't need we apparently forced upon them before they keeled over. And afterwards, the bailouts mostly went right back to us too (iirc, arms deals, amongst others).

    Apropos arms, we're somewhere close to the the top regarding weapons exports too. [sarcasm]But it's great technology built with high precision. Go Germany![/sarcasm]
     
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    Sorry I wanted not to insult anyone german with a low income like me.Or a "long time workless".I just ranted about ignorant boring people independent of social class, because I think german culture is a bit special (well... ask tourists)but we are not a social integrating or well educated nation in general. The stigma goes back to the propaganda of World War I where seperatists killed a relative of the emperor of Austria and Germany got pulled into war and orchestated the long planned invasion of Belgium that made eeven teir airplanes called the baby killers. After that war right militant guys got out of control and founded many groups. When I was a teen I believed Swiss and Austria had the better TV content.
     
  13. richi902

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    The thing about weapons/tanks is sad but true, and it always was.
     
  14. ave

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    Still, the flaws in the German welfare system are not even slightly comparable to those in the US system. For a start, you don't have to be insured. If you then have an accident and receive first aid, you can get a bill of $1000's of dollars. Unimaginable in Europe for over 100 years. US... still stuck in 1910. Hartz IV and 1 Euro-Jobs are a ripoff, but if you compare both systems then it's clearly the better one. People literally die in the other system because they don't can't pay the doctors and insurance companies are able to refuse patients with existing illnesses.

    And yeah, I'd support food stamps, too. Especially to prevent the purchase of cigarettes Lol.

    Weapon exports, yeah, we are known for that. Well, at least we don't do the opposite and SPEND 1 Trillion dollars a year on dustcatcher battleships while our own people die from a heart desease in a trailer park due to a lack of money.
     
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  15. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

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    Ah, so we're mixing healthcare in with the welfare system? Yes, in that case the US loses big time. OTOH, my grandpa had to pay thousands of euros (or rather DM I think, it's been a while) for medication that the insurance wouldn't cover (some radiocontrast agent that was fresh on the market and not yet in their system, iirc), so high bills can happen here too - just not that easily. Also, a) a lot of our MDs are moving to other countries because the payment isn't very good here and b) prices for meds are sky high - pharma producers see what they can sell their stuff for here, slash that price, like, in half and use that price for the other euro countries. Yes, insurance covers most of that, but they have to get their funds somewhere too - guess where?

    Oh, and instead of the US being "stuck in 1910", you could say they just love their freedom of choice. You can choose to forego any kind of insurance - You'd be an idiot to do so, but it's a choice you made yourself. I can totally see where they're coming from. Of course insurance has to be affordable for (mostly) everyone for this to work, otherwise it's not a true choice. I have no idea if that is the case.
     
  16. ave

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    It's higher in numbers in North America, but cost is also higher. You have to pay for a lot of things by yourself, even if you are insured, that would not occur in Europe. In addition, benefits from companies such as company cars, complete health coverage including dental and eye care, are by far not as commonly offered as on the other side of the ocean.

    Skilled workers such as electricians or plumbers can earn up to $40 an hour in Canada. They'd earn $20 max in Germany, but you have to consider that most of those people do not have a retirement fund set up by the company, do not receive healthcare from their employer and lack a couple of other benefits - hence the higher pay, but they also have to take care of all that by themselves, which means extra work on top of extra cost.

    There are indeed advantages to living in North America, but the bottom line is: Being unemployed/handicapped/poor is much worse in North America (=USA) than it is in Europe, and we should be a bit proud of that instead of exaggerating our problems. Other countries accept their own problems and at the same time, they're proud of what they have - that's why the grass always seems to be greener outside of Germany. Because many Germans don't even realize what they have.
     
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    You only value it once it's gone...
     
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    Few night ago I made Sour Beef (used to be horse) and dumplings a dish from german roots with my own twist and marinade and it did for 48 hours. It was acctually sour Rib eye steak dumplings and was the BIZ-OMB. CHEERS TO GERMANY AND MY SLOW COOKER.
     
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