hi and merry christmas and god jul to all of you forummers and people and happy hanuka to the jewish society the word jul is really the word for the viking celebration of light fest in scandinavia and is celebrated tomorrow the 24. december and why am i posting this now ? because it is lille juleaften today in Denmark (lille juleaften = "little christmas eve") and in the yuletide they ate and having viking fun (other places they had the same thing than scandinavia) and making out and under the misteltoe (yeah the misteltoe is pagan) and yes they gave presents to eachother (but not expensive gifts like a PS2 and other presents) but they gave of joy to eachother and Saturnus is the roman celebration of light held on the 25 december (the roman emporor said they would hold christmas there) and many of the christian things you can call christmas things are really pagan/heathen the christmas goat ( a symbol of virility) and the the thing called "adventskrans" in three levels (resembling the underworld the Midgaard / Midgård asgaard asgård in danish) the underworlds name was hel (no double L) and jul means Wheel, the wheels on the sunwagon.(don´t hang me on it) so merry christmas happy hanuka god jul and peace to all (even those are not forummers all over the world.) so take a closer look on the things you call christmas things they could be fallos symbols and pagan of its origin. Idrepublix hang in there and a big merry christmas to you
Yeah, damn christians stole christmas off the pagans! I was listening to some thing on the radio a few days ago about how Jesus couldn't possibly have been born this time of the year - they even calculated a precise date he was actually born, but I can't remember it now. It wasn't even in 0 AD!
Yeah, "Christmas" was officially moved to Dec. 25th by the Romans (Nicean council of 425 A.D.) becasue there was a pagan festival called "Saturnalia" at the same time. The people held carnivals, gave each other presents, etc. "Santa Claus" is actually taken from a northern European diety called the "Holly King" who rode in a slegh lead by Raindeer, who's sacred tree was was the Christmas fir, gave gifts, etc. The legend was changed to Saint. Nicolas. St. Nick actually did exist (around 425-500 AD.) The stroy goes he was a monk who helped two poor unwed daughters find husbands by leaving the dowery in a stocking that was drying over the fireplace. (hence Christmas stockings, chimmineys, chestnusts roasting over an open fire, etc.) Who knows if that actually happened, but that's the legend. Of course, all the fromer pagan trappings of Christmas have come to have a Christian meaning (Christmas trees representing the Cross, etc.) But the fact that pretty much every culture has a festival around this time of year undrlies that. In fact if you look at it, there are festivals/holidays in nearly every part of the world from every religion (and nation) that correspond with certain times of the year, those being solar events (Solistices and equinonxes.) For example: Spring - Easter (Christian) Purim , Passover (Jewish) Mardi Gras (In celbration of the Shrimp Harvest) Holi (India) Summer - (July seems to be the month where nations declare thier independence) July 4th (United States) Bastille Day (france) Canada Day (Of course, Canada) Fall - Halloween (or "All hallows eve," A Christianized holiday taken from the pagan festival Samhain, or celtic new year) Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur (Jewish) Mid-Autum Festival (Chinese Halloween) El Dio De Los Muertos (Mexican Halloween) Thanksgiving (As well as corresponding harvest holidays around the world; Chursk (Korea,) Durga Puja/Navratri (India), etc.) Winter- Christmas Yule (Pagan) Hanukkah (Jewish) Ramadan (Islam) Kwanzaa (which was created in the 1970's as a way to revive old African festivals, and bring an African indentity to African Americans) Anyway, so if you look at it, all these holidays correspond with solar events, which shows we really all worship/celebrate the same thing in the end. Even the root of the word "holiday" gives it away: Holi-day, "Helious," day of the sun. That doesn't diminish any of the meaning one gets out of any particular holiday however, I personally think its something that should bring people together, we're all not so different, good will towards men, let us please stop dropping bombs on each other, blah blah blah.
We don't seem to celebrate a lot here - the yanks seem to celebrate St. Patrick's Day and Hallowe'en more than anyone else - there weren't even parades on St. Patrick's Day in Ireland until the 50's or 60's, and no one really does anything on Hallowe'en any more - back when I was a kid we used to go trick-or-treating, but in the last 3-4 years we haven't even bought any sweets for kids because none of them go out any more. Also, the British stole most of our proper seasonal holidays and replaced them with boring Bank Holiday Mondays, and I don't know when our day of independance is... I don't even know what year it was!
the date of JC´s birthday and year is in about March year 5 BC other sources say about his REAL father was a roman soldier by the name of Panthera (pronounced Pantera) my source to all that info is Mark Goodaere (a religion researcher) from the BBC documentary (no this is not religion bashing at all people it is facts and i will not discuss it because beleafs is beleafs.) but enough of that good yule to you all
Sanct Hans is a danish midsummer fest held the 23. of june and Valborg is the swedish bunfirefest earlier (is Valborg not also the name of the witch´s fest ?)
Merry Christmas and the like to all! I'm off to my family in Belgium for the next few days so I won't be around but I hope to be back on the 27th
Merry Christmas everyone !! It's now officially Christmas in Japan which means within 24 hours all the decorations will be taken down. hahaha, The Japanese really haven't got a clue about anything thanks to their "No thinking out of the box" way of life :smt043 Yakumo
Wasn't the inspiration for Santa Claus the Dutch story of Sinter Klaas or something like that? Anyways, regardless of if the actual Christmas was December 25th or mid-March (the time of year it most likely happened), the symantics don't really matter - it's the tradition and the meaning behind the celebration that are really important, and that's what you need to keep sight of, not start nitpicking on the correct historical date or what not, but what it means NOW and what it symbolizes - the whole part about peace on earth and goodwill toward men. With that, Merry Christmas, ASSEMbler board!! :smt023 :ramen :-D
Thanks for the history lesson guys, interesting stuff! Merry Christmas all, or what ever event you celebrate at this time! :smt023
The names sound startingly familiar, yeah. But Sinterklaas (St. nicholas) looks like this: Oh and expect some traditional Sinterklaas goodies in the mail with your PCE multitap ;-) BTW, reminds me of the fact that Brooklyn was named after my village, Breukelen :smt033
intresitng fact, coca cola has the copyright for santa claus in the us, as well rud off the red nose reindear was invented by the department store that went under a couple of years called montgemery wards.
