i dunno, may be since in japan the valentine day had become more valuable than anywhere else on earth?:lol: btw. since i'm swiss i just know a very small turd about st. valentines etc.
For guys at least. On Valentine's Day, the girl is supposed to give chocolate to the guy she likes (preferably handmade) as opposed to us lads doling out a fortune on roses/chocolates, etc... Sadly my girlfriend isn't Japanese. /pootles off to Interflora. 50 pounds for a dozen roses, OUCH!!
plagiarising your style of humour, I d say that anyone who believes in Saints could be perceived as an idiot from certain points of view ;p regarding the highly lucrative upcomming celebration:
Uh... b/c St. Valentine is written all over the place in Japan this time of year? Not sure about the UK, but it's just plane old Valentine's day with hearts and hopes of getting laid in the US. Well, it's pretty pointless to argue religion (or aspects of it, such as saints). Anyone that tries to I perceive as an idiot. I do think it's unfair that they can only be committed after death.
Well Saints are saints because an institution such as the Church dubbed them so. They weren't any better than say me or you, or mother Terresa I have a thing against discrimination without plausible grounds - which is a wholly different topic from arguing religion.
Saint Valentine wrote books on courtly love, etc. back in the middle ages and it propagated chilvary. Eventually he was dubbed a saint partly for this type of work. Otherwise women would be treated like bitches & hoes.
I think you're reffering to the wrong Valentine. The one celebrated on the 14th is not the same as the one u refer to. Women being treated equally is something modern, not much to do with the middle ages, also known as the Dark age of europe for more on senior Valentine.. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine and I quote: PS: When will men be treated equally to women? For centuries they have married rich men and got away with it, and I think its our turn to sit home, look pretty and make funky requests like "oh i so want that diamond"
I'm sure they were all better than me. I'm pretty rotten. The moment they do I'm going to go on a spree punching women in the face, and finally I won't have to feel guilty about it.
Better than me or you? Absolutely! You don't just become a Saint, the title is granted after death for outstanding acts to humanity and the faith. You might not agree with religion, but you're not going to get away with putting down saints without me responding to it. Discrimination? Rubbish! You can't become a priest, but that is because you do not have faith and are not a Christian. There is no discrimination there. In the same way, you couldn't become a saint. It is a rank for the holy. Mother Terresa should be a saint for sure, however it is not a quick process: http://people.howstuffworks.com/question619.htm
rank? what is this?the army? i thought everyone was equal in certain religions and you're defending religious buraucracy? I can't see the point driving your arguments I m afraid Jim:icon_bigg Aye, hefty n solid critieria those, aren't they? Proof or a miracle? Proving subjective BS is something that only a blessed few can do Oh I see...for example: Well, so long for science and medical reasons, it was mad juju powers!:lol: Besides obviously leading people to lies and fiction, their criteria are subjective as is the definition of what is good and bad. There's no good grounds why they should "canonize" folks based on what they perceive as a miracle. Those are paper-made rules they have and they dont provide any kind of legitimacy because they act as their own reference. Religions are a moral dogma, and yet individuals and organizations have turned them into machines to their own ends for centuries. I have nothing against people who choose to believe, but I have a strong saying against organized religion, because organization is led by those with ambition, and ambition always corrupts.
Yeah the miracle thing is kind of out there. However, you are not saint worthy and saying that saints are no better than you or I is an outrage and remains so whatever your religious view. To be saintly is not just about a miracle, it centers on how you conduct your life and how pious you are as a human being. Living a life of self-sacrifice and devotion that is free of sin. Very few people can claim that life, which is why there are so few saints.
To be saintly is not just about a miracle, it centers on how you conduct your life and how pious you are as a human being. Living a life of self-sacrifice and devotion that is free of sin. This statement is acceptable (in an abstract philosophical manner, ie surealistic) Very few people can claim that life, which is why there are so few saints But there you go again, linking a way of life to a (real and official(TM)) label given by a religious organization. I also would like to question, what is a sin? Who defines it? It's all good and dandy when you use loose words like "sin", "purity" , "sacrifice" etc. We all have sacrificed many desires in favour of other people, and we ve all forgiven and helped at some point in our life. If however, by being a saint you mean being a pacifist who helps others, then you are narrowing down to a certain type of character. Well, in the real world, there's many different types of character, and each person has their own way of doing good. It's a really subjective matter and I think one should contain their religious believes in their own little jar, because the virtues you named mean nothing if taken out of the Catholic context, which I clearly do not adhere to. In other words, I want to hear some arguments with a common denominator, not vague definitions. This is especially so to keep the discussion out of religion-specific waters and to save offence to anyone. PS: let's not forget that there are quite a few Saints that have slain people, for a greater purpose argued by some, but it gets sticky when we don't all share the same purpose.
Take my advice then (seeing as I'm a good person ;D). You ain't going to put the world to right on a message board.
Just in case anyone forgets, tomorrow (14th) is indeed St Valentine's day so if you have a girlfriend, partner, wife or significant other irrespective of gender preference and you've omitted to purchase a card (at the very least) then now is the time to get off to the 24 Hour petrol station to get the last bunch of saggy ass flowers, highly inappropriate card ("commiserations on your sad loss" will not do!) and an out of date box of chocolates! This message may just save you from a truly rubbish evening.
I m on photoshop and making some e-cards as we speak! will supply one to dad to give to mom! :icon_bigg
