Well the 2nd Sony PVM 1910 I bought actually arrived today. The first one was destroyed in shipping and I was thankfully quickly refunded without ever having to deal with anything. The second one I paid to have cacoon wrapped/encased in protective foam padding stuff and it arrived ok. And wow, this thing is huge. It is replacing a decent 19" CRT TV with only Composite Video but it's alot heavier and much more bulky. I got it out of the box and setup where I wanted and then remembered before I could do anything with it I needed to get a BNC to RCA jack adapter. So that was a quick trip to radioshack for that and when I got back I hooked up the Genesis to test and it seems to be great. But the real test was just a few minute ago, I hooked up Mortal Kombat (Bootleg PCB). I had to use the shitty composite video out since I didn't want to wait to wire up an RGB connection yet. I turned it on and YAY! Finally no rolling fucking picture. But the bad news is the picture was black and white though I think that's just from the JROK encoder and all that. But now I need to really finish up my Supergun case and wire up the RGB connector and such. I bet it'll look alot nicer with RGB. Does anyone know how you get it to use the speaker that's built into it? I saw an audio-in jack but the headphone cable didn't work so I assume it's some other odd cable type. The other question would be will I need a VCR to tune in TV channels I guess? Update: I did a fairly quick job of soldering to a VGA/HD15 connector and connected that to my Supergun and it to a regular HD15 to BNC cable and tried out the RGB from Mortal Kombat. It was very nice and crisp though the first try I couldn't see hardly any Red because the Red and Green pns were slightly connceted from a blob of solder but I fixed that. It's certainly nice to see MK finally working. But then there's another problem, possibly because my board is a bootleg. Randomly there are sprite issues. Like random pixels from characters are transparent. This makes me wonder if it's like a problem related to the VRAM chips being defective or not getting enough power or who knows. Haven't tried MK2 yet, probably have that wait till after the main unit is complete.
Glad you got the monitor then. As the signal from MK is non standard the j-rok encoder may be encoding it correctly for the signal but the monitor may not handle the signal. As for audio, have no experience with this monitor but it should have an audio in somewhere. Yes you will need a VCR with a tuner if you want to make it a TV or a cable box with composite out or something. Still glad you got RGB to work. You should show some pictures.
Well like I said, I'll run games via RGB when it's all said and done anyway. The audio I managed to figure out on the monitor, which I mainly use for TV watching. I've still gotta finish the main supergun unit, but it'll be nice when it's all finished. I've also ordered some RGB cables for other systems. It's all slowly coming together. When it's all setup I will take pictures, but till then I won't bother trying to borrow a digital camera. Sadly so far the RGB monitor is mainly used for composite till I can get RGB cables as well as finish the Supergun.
That seems like a PAL/NTSC incompatibility problem because of the Composite video, it should be fine when you connect it through RGB
Well I got a working Marvel Vs Street Fighter CPS2 set now so I went to try it out on my RGB monitor and I had to end up redoing the connector, crossed/shorted connections were causing bad color. But now I can see and hear my new game brilliantly and it's really sharp. I also went through a long, painful, pain in the ass process to make a Sega Genesis model 1 RGB cable and that's finally working too. Sooooooooo much better than composite video. Also, for anyone with a Sony PVM, what's with the On/Off switches by R,G,B, and Ext Sync? They also say like 75 ohm. I noticed if Sync i "on" then RGB doesnt sync for me. For RGB nothing happens different wether they are on or off. So I have them all set to off now. Though before they were on for RGB and off for Sync.
It's mainly to balance the impedence of the cables, see http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/131527.html For more information. Sync i is likely to be a signal to get the sync from the green input rather then from a seperate sync. For RGB cables, go and buy a load of UK / European scart leads for your devices and just make a single cable from the monitor to a SCART input, that way you could buy a switcher box and have most things connected to your monitor and change them with a single switch.
There's another button that I think would make it Sync on Green which enables and disables Ext Sync. Not sure though. I'm not too concerned about it for now. I did order a couple SCART RGB cables, SNES and Sega Saturn. I thought of getting a switcher and all that but I decided it'd be easier (and cheaper and faster) to just convert the SCART end to my RGB pinout. If it wasn't so hard to find SCART sockets here I would just make a SCART socket for my RGB. Maybe later but for now I'm thinking the quick and easy route.
You should buy a SCART socket from an UK electronics retailer like Maplins, the cost would be quite small and would save you have to resolder plugs.
You win. I'll grab one of those 2 way SCART switcher things that's fully wired designed to let you plug in 2 SCART devices to 1 socket, and I'll hack apart that. Damn you for making me not be as lazy.
You'll thank me for it in the long run as most consoles that have RGB will have SCART leads for them.
The cheapest of the SCART 'switch' boxes are just a bunch of sockets wired pin-to-pin with a short cable hanging off one end. They'll work fine, but only if only one source is active at any one time! Also worth mentioning that pins 19 and 20 are swapped over on most cables - they're wired pin1 - pin1, pin2-pin2, ... pin19-pin20, pin20-pin19, pin21-pin21. This makes composite video out (= composite sync) from the output device attach to composite video in on the input device. If you wire things up assuming the cable is straight-through then it won't sync! Don't ask how long I took to figure this out OH: Stone
That was something I was wondering about! I had heard some SCART TVs actually wanted composite video to sync rather than composite sync. So that's good to know they swap them sometimes. I doubt my monitor would appreciate composite video as Composite Sync.
It's weird as most SCART leads will be wired up either with Composite video or Composite Sync, the TV will strip out the video for the Sync signal. If you find the monitor doesn't like this then you can build a very simple circuit using a LM1881 sync seperator chip and 3 other components. http://www.gamesx.com/misctech/lm1881.htm This is the same circuit as most of the datasheets on the chip use but it's explained better here. For scart here is a nice page on it. http://www.homecinemachoice.com/articles/wvarticles/hardware/200102_scart.php All you need to remember is to use pins 2,4,6 for Right Audio, Ground and Left Audio; 7, 11, 15 for Blue, Green, Red signals; 20 for Composite Video / Sync; Pin 16 for +5V; 18, 21 (this is the outer shield) for ground. 99% of these will use these pins. 4,18 and 21 generally can be tied together.
Never use one of these with your systems!! Imagine the RGB switch and blanking wired pin-to-pin and accidentaly powering on 2 systems at the same time.... My JPN Saturn fried because of one of these Never use these cheap switchless boxes, always buy the ones with switches
So if there's not a mechnical switch, voltage from one system's cable could go through the other's and into the other system? Or something like that? Sounds like on general principal I should not plug in more than 1 thing.
Exactly. I had a hard time finding mine, I have 2x 3 SCART switch-boxes and one 2 SCART switch box. And the best part is that just one of the 3 Scart boxes came wired for RGB, the others only worked with composite xD Luckily one had both the video in and out wired so I just grabbed the soldering iron and swapped a few wires and my box was now RGB capable! :clap: And I also took the chance to put in a RCA out to connect to my amp. They are a bitch to find, they are a bit pricey, and probably you will still have to mod them to suit your needs, but its totally worth it!
The SCART switcher I ordered said specifically it was fully wired, unlike other cheaper boxes that only wired composite. I do intend to either get a break out type device or solder RCA jacks to it for Stereo output. But it'll be worth it to effectively have SCART input for the RGB monitor. Then I can just buy SCART cables opposed to hacking together my own.
I hacked the end of the SCART box adapter and severed each wire marking its number on tape tonight. Then I hooked it to a screw terminal block temporarily to test and I saw my Super Famicom working which was nice. Turns out the Sony PVM 1910 can take Composite Video and use that as CSync. Tomorrow I plan to get some RCA jacks to route audio through, and a screw block and a box to put all the crap in so it looks nice when it's all sealed up. Update: It's complete. I did all the wiring to a terminal block inside a small projcet box from radioshack. I used some tool from the garage that I can't remember it's name to cut out holes in the plastic for the HD15 connector, the 2 RCA Jacks, the SCART wires, and 2 more to bolt down the terminal block to the bottom. It turned out pretty well. I set it up in a good spot and now I can just plug in SCART cables. Makes me wonder if I should change my SuperGun to have a SCART cable output.
