HDD Modules borking PS2 remote control?

I have:

-SCPH-50001 softmodded w/ free mcboot incl. usual assortment of elfs (opl, sms, ule, etc.) on memory card
-1TB SATA internal HD connecting thru modified network adapter
-official Sony DVD remote control
-Logitech Harmony 700 remote control w/ correct ps2 profile loaded

if i power up everything without free mcboot mem card installed straight to sony browser, everything is normal. i can power on, reset and power off w/ reset button on machine, dvd remote, or my logitech universal.

if i power up with free mcboot installed and use it without invoking hdd modules (just browsing menus, etc.), again everything is good. normal operation for power functions for reset button and all remotes.

if i power up with free mcboot installed and invoke hdd modules (opl hdd games, ule hddmanager, browse to hdd0) then the only way to operate power functions is through the reset button on the machine itself or by selecting something like 'power off' from a menu on screen (like opl, ule). neither the sony remote nor my logitech universal will reset or power down the ps2. upon holding down either one, the green light on the reset button flashes once and then nothing happens.

admittedly, this may be the lamest of all first-world problems. but it is baffling. and it's the only fly in the ointment that i've discovered using this setup. everything else is just glorious.

anyone got any ideas about the cause of this or how i might work around it?

 

^^ this is in uLE/while hdd is spun up i presume?
afaik, there's no way to get the ir remotes to work on the gui's, i'd like to be wrong as it would be the shit to have it all! (psxscene and sksapps maybe able to help? i'm not a member at either...yet! just a viewer)
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when a game is loaded, the ir remote can still take effect as a basic navigator pad, at least for the official remote!
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all i can suggest is, create a hotkey/shortcut to the 'poweroff' elf in uLE, maybe assign an ir remote button that reflects what's on an official $ony pad....or a pad button!
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my setup takes me straight into uLE and i've hotkey'd eight elf buttons to the 1UP pad! (four face and triggers)
reset and poweroff are two of them and work fine from uLE!
had to config OPL the same, but it's a menu entry!
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hope you suss it out! (and i'd like a modified rj45/sata hdd card, haven't got the skills or the ca$h) :friendly_wink:
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i don't know what grade of crack the devs were smoking but in uLE, the reset elf is labeled, 'ps2browser'....

 

I think that this is normal behaviour of expansion-bay units. I have not used the remote control before, but these consoles were designed to trigger a hardware interrupt and not do anything on its own, if the power button is pressed when the HDD unit is activated. The software must shut down the console on its own or it will continue running.

Perhaps the remote control cannot cause the power off interrupt signal to be asserted, and neither can the console be switched off by it.

If you have a HDD-enabled game, try switching off the console with the remote when the HDD unit is activated.

 

^^ gave it a bang, didn't seem to do anything! (the ir keypad and media functions were dead bar the game buttons! to be expected at that point)
IGR was the way, then a uLE hotkey poweroff....

 

tried this on a couple games from hd. inside the first few minutes of play, same problem.

however, played around 30 mins. of one of those same titles and the reset button on my universal remote succeeded in turning off the machine. then duplicated this behavior with another title.

sp, are the modules released from memory or something after a certain period of time?

also, thx heaps to amiga for the tips on hotkeys. really don't use that feature enough.

 

There were sober. The OSDSYS is the browser.

I was not referring to playing games off the HDD unit with software like OPL. It may not be a fair test because the game is not aware that the HDD unit is active and does not have the necessary code for handling the poweroff event. OPL may have its own code for that, but it is part of a megahack called "IGR" and may not be as reliable.

Instead, I was referring to playing games that have native support for the HDD unit, from its original disc.

The modules are not unloaded after a period of time. You have probably observed the symptoms of something else....

FHDB does not have any power off handling code, at all. On the other hand, the HDD OSD should give you the correct behaviour, and you should be using it with FHDB anyway.

 

ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. wish i could have my own go at that test but the laser unit on my current ps2 is malfunctioning. in any event, it seems as though amiga1200 confirmed precisely your point regarding power off interrupts in these consoles. thx, amiga!

as for hdd osd, other than the correct behavior you mention, could you elaborate a little more about why i should be using it versus opl?

 

^^ anytime! :friendly_wink:
(as for fhdb, can't elaborate myself, i don't speak matrix and didn't write it!)
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not to go off subject but regardless of rom loader, use individual settings, tweak each game accordingly!
sometimes, IGR doesn't work...
and adjusting dma settings in OPL is required on a single game basis!
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in any case, all the best!

 

I did not mean that the HDD OSD us a better substitute than OPL.

I meant that the HDD OSD has proper support for the HDD unit, which means that you can switch off the console by pressing the power button once. I do not know whether it supports the newer (the one with the power button) remote controller fully But it would be a good example of a software that supports the HDD unit and remote controller properly, if it does.

Just FYI, games that were installed by HDLGameInstaller are made bootable by an embedded version of OPL. The HDD OSD does not support booting disc images on its own.

 

got it, thx for the clarification. just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something less obvious. cuz i usually am.

fwiw, it would probably be fair to call my setup somewhat...outdated, perhaps. especially held up against all the bright and shiny things stickied in the various dev threads. but it's doing the trick for now. simply auto-loading opl 0.9.2 via fmcb 1.8 from mem card. haven't run into any real issues to date and don't mind keeping the mc plugged in as opl's vmc feature takes care of all my saves and never gives me any grief.

anyway, not being able to remotely power down my otherwise seamless ps2 experience is just the excuse i need to get my lazy a@# off the couch.