HDDVD and BlueRay cracked already?

From engadget:

Damn, so much for my prediction of being unhackable. Kids these days and their high tech fancy schamncy memory sniffers and decryption keys. I remember back in the day when all we had was deCSS written as haikus or on t-shirts... and we liked it that way!

 

The hollywood execs spend soo much on these counter measures and it just turns out that some programmer in that team just leaves something critical wide open.

 

Yeah, both dvd formats are cracked, and the WII has gotten a modchip already. So it is no wonder why, I do admire them who goes in, and sniffs out how to this and that. Even though what they do, is fucking illegal, but cool none the less.

 

well back in the day you'd use an oscilloscope to track the stuff you were after. coders don't need any electronics knowledge nowadays to that degree thankfully

 

I think there's always going to be some media device end up getting cracked no matter what.

I wouldn't be surprised if PS3 modchips are already out and people have thousands of games saved to their hard drives on it.

 

So much for protection on hd or blue ray. Should be some interesting reading in the news soon. How high of a mushroom cloud do you think hollywood will have over this since this pretty much blows out any protection they can do?

 

honestly, it makes me laugh.

 

Me to. Just like an old bugs bunny cartoon.

 

I don't think the mushroom cloud will hit until HD/Blueray has cheap writable media. Of course everyone contends that you can store it on hard drives for now, but thats kind of like trying to store your mp3 collection back in the early 90's (had mp3 been around). Because I don't understand the entire logistics of the new HD content protection scheme, I'm interested to see *if* hollywood can fire back. I think it would be kind of dumb if they didn't learn their lesson the first time around with DVD.

It's great knowing that the internet is about to be flooded with 20GB+ torrents of Deuce Bigalow and Doom.

 

Sounds like hollywood during rush hour...nothing moves

 

Heh yea I know, that's funny. I've seen reallly long versions of poems that spell out the code. And the keys that have been found will eventually be revoked, sowho knows how many future titles will be able to be cracked.. =/

But yea, I don't support piracy, but I do support getting the drm junk off discs...

 

this will facilitate offshore pirates more than surfing pirates. Most people don't have the HDD or the bandwidth to download such massive files around the world. The few that have tha pirating equipment can invest some time to download the goods and sell them at a fraction of the price to consumers.

This is the way of things with every medium, no reason to cry about it. DVD made it through the haze of piracy, and so did VHS. BD and HD-DVD will suffer due to their lack of substance as media for delivering better picture - unless they start giving away HDTV setups with every player, or lowering HDTV prices, or even better, making sense out of computer monitors and installing a tuner in them, having perfect little HDTVs for everyone at affordable prices - instead of the ridiculous shit they charge us now.

Actually this is a neat idea. Imagine the penetration of HD technology if Joe Schmoe made monitor-sized HDCP compliant HDTVs. Most people only get ONE big/expensive TV and have other smaller/cheaper ones in other rooms - in my view, that should be the replacement-target, and if cheap/small monitor-cost HDTVs hit the market, HD video formats and gaming stand an even better chance.

 

FYI

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Just in case you want to read the original news

 

I was hoping at least one person got that joke. I put the link in my original post, but I now realize that links seem to blend in, so here is the site: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/

This happened my first year of college and I remember a few people walking around with t-shirts.

So anyways, I just found out what people are doing with the high def stuff. They're distributing it re-encoded in h.264 or xvid. You're still getting 720 and 1080p but at dvd5 sizes. Interesting. What makes me wonder is what steps the movie industry can do to combat this? They can revoke the key, but that doesn't stop the mechanism for how the key was found from being exploitable.

 

I've got one. It has DVI with HDCP and it's only 19". It also has a ton of analog inputs as well. It's the only TV in the US I've seen that has a SCART input, as well. I imagine the reason it doesn't sell better is because it's labeled as a "multipurpose monitor" rather than a TV, even though there's no difference. People are all about labels.

 

la-li-lu-lo, how much?

 

:lol:
So there is a God somewhere after all!!
:lol:

 

At this point they'd have thousands of copies of the same game on their hard drive. Lack of selection and all that.

 

No supprise here. I dout hollywood put the proper time and investment into securing the format.

Personaly I think they will try hacking it like the psp. No need for a mod chip at all. I would not be shocked if ps3 has some of the same security loop holes psp firmwares have.

 

As I understand it, all that happens now is they revoke the software player. That was the whole idea about the new protection, I thought - that it could be updated and any compromised players excluded.

Obviously, that isn't to say that newer players won't suffer from similar exploits, but it's important to note that AACS itself hasn't been broken in this instance, it's just been bypassed. However, there's an interesting bit of software in beta stage at the moment called AnyDVD HD, which apparently allows for non-HDCP-compliant monitors to display HDCP content, decrypting content on the fly. The developers claim that it doesn't use compromised encryption keys, which begs the question really. More at the Wikipedia entry on the Muslix64 exploit.

(It really is pathetic that after all this time I still have to manually underline my links. Is it too much to ask to have a moderator look into it?)