help me decide on a HDTV!

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  1. Micjohvan

    Micjohvan Familiar Face

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    Hi everyone!

    In short I plan on getting a new TV within the next 2 days.

    Currently I have a Sanyo 30in Flat Screen. It can only do 480i but its got componet so all my systems are hooked up for HD already. Thus I will be ready to game in HD once I get the new set.

    Anyway to sum it up my parents need more room in their living room and are having me sell their 52in Projection screen which I am looking to get about 300 for. (its a 2000 model, non-HD but a great picture and all new parts) If anyone happens to be interested please get with me.

    I am giving them my 30in in return because they like it.

    So I am going to add my own money to it and I would love to get away with 500-600 dollars or less if possable.

    I dont really want a LCD, I prefer CRT style as they are much more rugged and last forever. Also vintage games dont look like crap on them.

    I hope to get one at walmart, my uncle works their and I will get 10% off any TV I choose.

    They have a nice Sanyo 30inch Wide Screen HD set but it can only do 720p which I think might be OK for me since im not a big graphics whore.

    SO, what should I do, should I go for 1080 or is it that big of a diffrence from 720? I prefer Sanyo, but what other brands are good?

    Any helpful info would be great. Thanks! :thumbsup:
     
  2. Jasonkhowell

    Jasonkhowell Well Known Member

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    Olevia's 36 inch is a pretty decent TV brand for that price. It may not have all the major features that some have, but it can do everything up to 1080i, VGA support, and a HDMI slot.
     
  3. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Bestbuy were clearing out their Insigna brand 30" Widescreen HD CRT for ~$400 inc tax recently. I highly recommend it, although it is pretty heavy (120lbs!). The picture is of excellent quality and being CRT it supports the lower resolutions natively, which makes it great for older systems. It has 3 S-video, 1 component and digi coax, a HD Digital Decoder and a few other nice little features. Highest it will go is 1080i, but it supports 720p and 480p and can also convert 1080i to 540p.

    The set also looks nicer than a lot of others.
     
  4. cahaz

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    why would anyone convert 1080i to 540p??
     
  5. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    1080i is transferred as 540p signal and then split. it's a native process.
     
  6. cahaz

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    so 1080i isnt real 1080?
     
  7. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Some people prefer progressive to interlaced even if it means a resolution hit.
     
  8. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    it's what u make of the signal really.

    think of the bandwidth as a static number. in this bandwidth u can carry enough video data corresponding to 540p.

    1080i takes up as much bandwidth as 540p. why? because interlacing means half the frames at any given frame , as such 1080/2=540.

    what the TV allows you, therefore, is to see the native form of the image (540p) or the padded/interlaced version which is 1080i.

    as such, 720p requires more bandwidth than 1080i. It is for this same reason that many older sets support 1080i and 480p , but not 720p.
     
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  9. Micjohvan

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    Ok, so I should go with at least 1080i if I can find it.

    Is 720p still good? I think the only console I have that can do anything above 720 is my 360? Wii can only do 480p correct?

    Also if I get a set thats made for widescreen its not going to clip the sides off my games to make them fit square is it (black bar style)?
     
  10. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    1080i is optimum for fast movement, whereas 720p is great for highly detailed sceneries. (sports versus an adventure game say)

    the wii can only do EDTV (480p) maximum besides SDTV (480i)
     
  11. hl718

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    Not quite.

    A lot of folks assume that 1080i = 540p because lower end CRT "HDTVs" often used the "dump and run" conversion due to it being quick and easy, not to mention difficult to notice on a CRT which could usually only resolve around 500-600 lines anyway.

    1080i content is usually broadcast as 1080i/30, though much of it is recorded at 1080p/24 and then converted before broadcast. It is not broadcast as a 540p signal.

    -hl718
     
  12. opethfan

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    Actually I'd have to disagree with you on that one. Ever seen a screencap of a sports game? There are often lines of motion, like the lines a little kid puts behind a running person. Wiki says: "The main tradeoff between the two is that 1080i may show more detail than 720p for a stationary shot of a subject at the expense of a lower effective refresh rate and the introduction of interlace artifacts during motion. 720p is used by ABC and ESPN because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports telecasts."
     
  13. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    the whole purpose of interlace is to have smoother image at high framerates :)
     
  14. Calpis

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    A progressive TV image is an interlaced image where one line is drawn for only one field of the frame. They are transmitted the same way.

    BTW, progressive lines must be drawn on every other TV line (the in between lines are "scanlines") because TVs render only even/odd lines each field.
     
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  15. Barc0de

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    nevertheless, it's a matter of bandwidth too, no one is disputing about the modus of transmission, just the allocation of the bandwidth.
     
  16. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    480i and 240p use the same bandwidth, they're the same thing to a TV if that's what you mean.
     
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  17. Barc0de

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    yeap
     
  18. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Most 1080i HDTVs also do 720p in my experience.

    Not sure quite what you mean but hopefully I will cover your question in this explanation of widescreen. Most widescreen sets will offer the ability to stretch a non-widescreen signal to fill the widescreen but it will make the image look distorted. Some will offer a 'natural' image mode where you will get the non-widescreen picture with black borders on the left and right of the image to maintain the aspect ratio.
     
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    I use a Superslim LG HD set

    aside from some minor Geometry issues (that can be fixed by adjusting the contrast) it's an Awesome set.
     
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    just saw a 50" lcd for 1800euro only 1080i why i wouldnt buy one but man i bought my crt tv 32" for 2400 euro 6 years ago =(
     
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