Hiding My IP.....

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  1. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    Does anyone do this? Any red flags to using a proxy? Can you still be found, be IP banned, etc?

    Also, what decides your IP? For example if I switch internet service to another company does my IP change or does the routing always stay the same based on location?
     
  2. lwizardl

    lwizardl Living The Dream

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    IIRC ip addresses are asigned by your ISP so switching providers would switch your IP. I haven't used a proxy myself but have been thinking about setting the computers in my house with one.
     
  3. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    Well, the IP address is technically separate from the routing path. For example, if you are switching from one DSL provider to another, you will most likely end up with a different block of possible IP addresses, but the routing path to your computer might not change. The reason for this is that the physical line to your residence may be "shared" by all DSL providers.

    Now, if you are switch from DSL to cable (or vice versa), then the path is going to be radically different. The same is true if you are just switching dial-up providers.

    So, what did you do or are planning to do that you need to hide? :fresh:
     
  4. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    wingate chaining , enough said:p
     
  5. Dot50Cal

    Dot50Cal Moderator

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    Just to add, Using a proxy service doesnt protect you. If you piss off someone enough they will contact the proxy you used and get your real IP. Most proxy services comply when lawyers get envolved.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    That's true, unless you go for some russian proxy service. They can't be arsed to bother with any country's lawyers. Same for Ukraine ;)

    Also, it's very useful to chain your proxies. For example if you have 5 "fakes" ips one after the other, the chance of being "caught" in a timely manner is very low, especially if you go for proxies offered in countries like the forementioned.
     
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    This question seemed a little bit vague. If you meant are you ip banned behind a proxy, then yes, its the proxy that gets banned.

    Chaining proxys together will work well but be prepared to wait forever as things get bounced around. One solution is to try and find an obscure anonomous one. I used to have a scanner when I was in college about 5 years ago. I found one on the local school system that had been left open. I just happened to know that it was anon since I had worked on that network while I was in high school. I used it to get around quite a few restricitions that our college network had :)
     
  8. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    You don't plan on doing anything malicious here with that type of stuff, right ;-)?

    Didn't Assembler put some restrictions on anyone who has a proxy and creates an account because of stuff that happened months ago?
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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  11. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    hehe I figured my questions might raise some eyebrows....

    Actually the first reason for the privacy is the fact that I live in Japan but my billing addresses are in the US. That wasn't a problem in the past but nowadays they're able to know I'm in Japan and I've had a few online credit card transactions denied since they know my PC is in Japan and I'm billing it to a US address.

    Secondly... I want to join a service like Napster but they're able to tell I'm in Japan and they won't let me in. I just want to pay for and use the service.

    Thirdly.... I remember Kev said that he was IP banned from eBay and as an eBay seller that stuff really worries me. I don't sell illegal things but given ebay's policy of pull first ask questions later I've always been worried that my entire business is at the mercy at some guy at eBay not knowing what I'm selling.

    As more and more companies are able to make decisions based on your PC location I'd rather not have to wade through all of that. I'm not a credit card scammer, I don't do anyting illegal, but being living overseas brings up problems that will probably happen more and more frequently in the future.

    But....are there any access problems using a proxy? Do some websites deny access to content based on a proxy? It might create more problems than it solves, but that's why I'm here asking questions first... ;)
     
  12. jwhazel

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    I don't know that its possible to reliably detect when a proxy is being used. On the reversal though, some proxy's aren't able to access certain web content. However, this is usually because they are specifically configured to do so. I remember using one to bid on ebay auctions from the computer that the auctions were created with (long story) and then I had trouble finding proxy's that dealt with 'get' and 'post' commands when signing in. I did manage to finally find a pay-for-proxy and won several auctions no problem.

    For all intents and purposes, proxys are legitimate and you shouldn't have any problems with them. The only issues I would see would be speed. For what you mentioned, I don't see any reason to chain them together.
     
  13. zappenduster

    zappenduster Familiar Face

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    in germany some weeks ago a lot of tor servers (people contributing their pcs to that tor network) where taken out by law enforcement same excuses like everytime childporn, terrorsm and so on...

    the network it self seems to be safe but when they come and just pack most of the computers als the security is useless
     
  14. madhatter256

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    Because that is what its continuously being abused for. Just be careful you dont get caught in the middle of it.
     
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