History repeating itself :)

Sounds good to me!

 

...Lol, when I see someone use the word "Dude" why do I always think of T.V programs like the 'A Team'?

 

"Dude, where is my console?" :smt082

 

^lol, indeed

 

I wonder how much work SEGA had on the Xbox when it was in development. Do you know some behind-scenes info oldengineer?

 

I doubt it

If SEGA was really on the Xbox is weird that they didnt merge with MS, let alone include their name on the console.

 

Good that somebody agrees with me :smt023

 

...Hmmmm I do like doubters

...I happen to run a couple of Prototype Xbox motherboards that aren't marked MS, BUT do have the SEGA Arcade Harness Sockets fitted!

...Here's a piccy of one of the boards, you can see the socket clearly, your'll have to trust me that it's not MS or SEGA marked, enjoy

 

You know, it wouldnt sound so creepy if you were a girl

Anyways, SEGA arcade sockets? unbeliable. Maybe the xbox was a prototype for a future high-end arcade board (model4 anyone?) and MS bough it when Naomi made into the arcades.

BTW, what did you do to get a Xbox proto?

 

Sure they're not Chihiro prototypes?

 

...They are 'related' to Chihiro but are infact Xbox Prototypes, running an Xbox BIOS, running Xbox Software

 

These are pre-release Xbox protos, yes? So why is there a heatsink over the Nvidia GPU chip, as opposed to a fan which is on all 1.0s? They didn't swap to a GPU heatsink till version 1.1+

 

...Because originally it was thought (theoretically) that the Xbox GPU would overheat so when the first Retail model was released they took no chances and stuck a fan on 'just in case'. (the last thing you want is loads of warranty claims on the launch of a new console for the sake of a few $)

...You have to remember that the Proto boards had very little 'real life' testing time allocated (literally not much more than a few weeks) so fitting a fan was an easy 'belt and braces' type fix, as dev/retail hours built up the fan was ditched with sure fire data and confidence.

 

Where exactly is this socket on the mobo?
I'm not sure what I'm looking for, so bear with me...

 

...Look at the gap between the system fan and the CPU heatsink, can you see a black, 2 row, mono-block connector, partly covered by the HDD power supply cable?

 

Ah!
Now I see it. Thanks for pointing this interesting tidbit out!

 

this topic is interesting to me. and on the subject of m$ and sega connections, i thought i read somewhere a long while back that sega influenced or possibly even designed the controller s for m$. to me, i can clearly see a resemblence between that controller and the dc version. four face buttons with the same colour scheme just rearranged differently. L and R analog triggers. analog stick to the right with a D-pad below it. so, you can see the similarities. the controller s looks like a beefed up and redesigned version of the dc controller with added buttons (black/white/back) and of course and extra D-pad.

can anyone confirm or deny my theory?...

 

Ok! What this socket is for?

 

One of the first things the gaming press mentioned during the unveiling of the Xbox back in 2000 was the fact that the controllers resembled those of the DC in terms of layout (and the addition of an extra analog stick). Given that controller designs and layouts aren't vastly different from one another (barring the bizarre designs that come out of Nintendo's R&D labs), I'd say that they did this somewhat intentionally to differentiate themselves from SOny's controllers and to give the DC owners a comfortable controller to start off with when the Xbox was released.