How do you get component out of a US SNES?

Discussion in 'Modding and Hacking - Consoles and Electronics' started by Myria, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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  2. omp

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    Yes rubber grommets and cord grips suck
     
  3. Myria

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    OK, so here are the things I bought:

    1. PAL GameCube SCART output, as recommended previously in this thread.
    2. An in-line SCART "breakout" device that passes SCART through while providing audio RCA jacks and composite video (the composite part of which I wouldn't use).
    3. One of the SCART to component video converters that "omp" showed, minus the audio mod.

    I hope that this'll work. If it does, I'll also get a PS1 to SCART cable. (Interestingly, the component jack of the breakout adaptor would actually be useful in that case to connect a GunCon; I don't have Point Blank/Gunbarl, though.)

    And eBay search engine, for the last time, no, I didn't mean "scarf". >.<
     
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    Dont think anyone was saying you should use glue or knots instead of the grommets you used in your mod :)
     
  5. Myria

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    OK, that didn't work. I used a PAL GameCube SCART plug with that SCART to component adaptor. Super Mario World looks like this:

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    The white part is flashing quickly, presumably at every other frame. I would guess that I'm seeing the sync signal visually.

    I don't have a picture of it, but Super Metroid looks similar but it's a line rather than a box.
     
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    Have you tried it without the "breakout" box?

    Its certainly possible that box doesnt pass through all the connections - just audio and composite. Which when used in RGB mode means you are getting sync only.
     
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    Yeah, that was one of the things I tried. The only difference was the lack of sound.
     
  8. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Hold on.... "Adapter"? You're using a video converter (i.e little box that requires power) and not an adapter (i.e un-powered thing) right? If you are, that might explain your issue, since adapters can't convert the video signal.
     
  9. Lum

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    SNES does not send component to its AV connector. No such data is present at that location. Even if a revision that internally generates component, it doesn't reach the outside world.

    A mere pass-through adapter either into or from component won't work.
     
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    It's a $50 converter box that has its own power supply. omp had a picture of it in this thread; I didn't sound mod it though.
     
  11. Lum

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    SNES video is low resolution. And some TVs refuse to accept less than 480i via component input. Common issue for PS1 games on PS2 (the actual PS1 lacked component), or some Wii VC games.
     
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    I've heard that the SNES RGB is 240p. But wouldn't 240p and 480i be the same thing for a 240-line source image?
     
  13. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    What Lum said was going to be my second suggestion, do you have a similar problem when playing SNES/NES virtual console games when your Wii is hooked up via component cables?
     
  14. Lum

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    Not quite, 480i is interlaced.
    Some PS2 collections upconvert 240p games into 480i.

    For that he should set the Wii to 480i. North American SNES/NES games allow 480p mode.
     
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    Sounds like you're trying to display 15khz/240p signals on a monitor incapable of doing so. The device you posted pictures of appears to be a simple transcoder which doesn't actually scale the video. Almost no modern screens can display 15khz/240p video properly or even at all.

    You may simply need a scaler. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCART-to-HD...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f1c57de41

    I own one of those, works well enough. No discernible lag. I actually don't even need it anymore so I can even sell it to ya if you're interested.
     
  16. Lum

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    Yeah a transcoder only changes RGB into component. Keeping intact the original sync rate and resolution. 240p 60hz in, remains 240p 60hz out. Etc.
    In other words with it TV must already accept the video mode a console uses.

    That simple type of box will NOT upscale, aspect ratio, scanlines, comb filter, convert between 50/60hz, or various special features.
     
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