how many games fit on 1tb xbox original

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  1. jamespoo

    jamespoo Peppy Member

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    i am thinking of buying one a guy is selling its the halo clear one he told me it was hardly used and is like brand new its CIB he wants $95NZD comes with 4 controllers

    it comes with no games on the hdd

    i hate disc based games as they can get scratched easy can get disk rot or cracked ect so i thinking about still buying a game here and there and backing them up to the xbox and then selling them

    but wanted to know how many will fit
     
  2. skavenger216

    skavenger216 Familiar Face

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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you sell the disc you no longer legally have any right to have a backup on your xbox.
     
  3. stranno

    stranno Enthusiastic Member

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    Well, in first place you are not supposed to dump the game.

    I think there's no such thing as "legal backup". It feels like another piracy urban legend, like the 24 hours to try the game and so.

    Anyway, nobody minds, just do it.
     
  4. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    If you mean making the backup and then selling the game and keeping the backup, that is illegal.

    If you mean keeping the game and making a backup, that is absolutely legal - http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html
     
  5. Sonny_Jim

    Sonny_Jim Enthusiastic Member

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    ..depending on where you live in the world.

    To work out how many games a 1TB can hold, it's not a particularly hard thing to work out. How big is the biggest XBox game?
     
  6. MaxWar

    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Megaman aniversary collection is quite small.

    Fable is quite big.
     
  7. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    I've actually just heard the practice is soon to be legal here, meaning it wasn't for a while! Anyway I don't think anybodies going to come after you for it.
     
  8. Sonny_Jim

    Sonny_Jim Enthusiastic Member

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    Heh, "quite small" and "quite big" aren't very descriptive.
     
  9. mickcris

    mickcris Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    1TB divided by 5GB is 200 discs. It should be pretty close to that as all games are not a full 5GB (but there are some that are more that are on more than 1 disc) and you will not get the full 1TB when formatted. Impossible to really say exactly how many would fit as they are all different sizes.
     
  10. stranno

    stranno Enthusiastic Member

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    Interesting but if you need to run unsigned code (that seems barely legal) to dump the game ... is that dump legal?

    You cant dump PSP games without using unsigned code (CFW or other homebrew) since there's no retail UMD stand-alone drive.

    This faq looks so generic.
     
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  11. Sonny_Jim

    Sonny_Jim Enthusiastic Member

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    Well, it would have to be generic. Can you imagine how big that FAQ would be if it covered every single use-case scenario?
     
  12. APE

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    The short answer: probably the entire library for all three regions in the world if you just have the data ripped from the images.
     
  13. Conker2012

    Conker2012 Intrepid Member

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    Most games were between a few hundred MB (very rare), and over four gigabytes, though a few used a dual layer DVD (such as the first Matrix game), and so contained more than 4.5GB (or whatever the XBox single layer DVD size limit was). I do remember that Morrowind GOTY is around 900MB (amazing, given the size of the game world), whereas Conker: Live and Reloaded is 4.4GB.

    There used to be a web site that listed the size and files of every XBox game. It wasn't as useless a site as you might think, as many XBox games had files on the disc that you personally would never need, such as audio files in different languages (i.e. as well as English, there might be French, German, Spanish, etc), video files in different TV types (i.e. the same videos were often present on the disc in both NTSC and PAL), video files that you didn't need (i.e. promo videos for other games, company copyright videos that show up when the game boots, etc), and sometimes you could save a lot of space by deleting all of the non-English audio files or the PAL/NTSC (whichever one you didn't need) videos, on some games you could save more than a gigabyte. If there were videos that needed to be present, but you didn't care about (usually the boot up logos for companies, and similar) then you could replace them with a video file you downloaded from the site, that was empty (i.e. one single frame, or whatever) but the game ran it as normal, so you saved space on the hard drive (although company logo videos didn't take much space anyway) and actually sped up loading a little (as you didn't have to sit through a few seconds of company logo video).

    Sadly, I can't find the site, I suspect that (like XBox-scene's forums, sadly), it's long gone. You can manually remove files using intelligent guesswork, but don't delete them unless you're sure, instead move them to a temporary directory (use Unleash-X or XBMC for file copy/move/delete operations) and see if the game works OK without them.

    For example, if there's a directory in the game called \Audio\ and it's contents look something like;


    \Audio\ gensondt.was
    \Audio\ gensondt_fr.was
    \Audio\ gensondt_es.was
    \Audio\ gensondt_ge.was

    then the three files with the _fr, _es, and _ge files are probably the French, Spanish, and German language files, and can be deleted (but move them to a temporary directory,and test the game first). A fairly good way of telling if similarly named files are different language versions is that their file sizes are similar, though not always identical.
     
  14. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Obviously you don't own 1TB of XBOX games, unless you have a complete set. As there's more than 1TB in the complete set - I can't remember the UGG torrent but it was 37TB ... I THINK. Anyhow if you have the discs, it won't matter if you copy then delete as you have a physical copy. If you're backing up and selling them then shame on you, and then again 80GB on the XBOX is more than enough for the 3-4 games you're playing at a time.

    It pisses me off when people sell softmod systems with CoinOps (piece of shit by the way), and every game downloaded from the internet. Maybe just me, but I despise those people.
     
  15. andoba

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    In many countries creating back-ups for personal use in order to preserve the original medium is legal.
     
  16. MaxWar

    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    What do you despise? The selling of downloaded arcade games or the concept of emulating arcade on Xbox?
    I really like Final burn btw.

    I have a huge pile of Xbox here, considering selling them with upgraded HDD + softmod. ( no romz though )
     
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  17. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    I despise people using that as a selling point - You just can't sell systems with pirated dumps of games.
     
  18. MaxWar

    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I agree, that is cheap.
    I like emulating arcade on the Xbox though, I have a few arcade PCB but really getting and using those is quite a tedious and costly business.
     
  19. skavenger216

    skavenger216 Familiar Face

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    I know that, but if you back something up, and then SELL the original copy, you are no longer legally entitled to a backup. I think you misread my post :)
     
  20. sonicsean89

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    Doesn't the UGG torrent include a lot of multi region games in separate files? (i.e. Halo 2 US, Halo 2 PAL, Halo 2 Brazil, etc).

    Still, 1TB is certainly enough to start off with, especially if you put some decent emulators and ROMs on it.
     
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