How to tell Micro SD card speed?

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  1. Micjohvan

    Micjohvan Familiar Face

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    Ok as many of you know I have bought a R4 for my DS. I now need a MicroSD card to use with it.

    I am looking at a 1 or 2 gig Lexar brand from walmart (uncle works there and I get 10% off)

    However I have heard that some MicroSD are slow and roms will lag when running from it. How can I tell the speed of the card before I buy it? How can I be sure I wont get lag when running my games on the DS?

    Please let me know and thanks for reading! :thumbsup:
     
  2. marshallh

    marshallh N64 Coder

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    Really the best thing you can do is buy a name-brand card like Sandisk. Plus I don't think anyone's making microSD clones yet, anyway.
     
  3. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Do you ever buy software Micjohvan?
     
  4. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    I would tell you something critical, but I don't know what your true intentions are. ROMS of Club Nintendo promotional games and homebrew dev and coding are cool beans, but retail stuff is a big NO for me. Unless you want to demo retail games, which is cool, but that's usually not the case with people...
     
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  5. MottZilla

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    In another thread didn't he already say he uses it to take multipule games he owns with him at once so he doesn't need to carry a bunch of game cards with him? I seem to remember reading that.

    As for the speed of the card, I'm not so sure that will handicap you alot for slowdown in games. In my past experience, SuperCard was pretty bad in the most demanding games like Castlevania's anime intro. But then a few firmwares later it was much improved. Also remember not every game will have issues with slowdown anyway. I suppose you could look into what the read speed of the card is with some kind of program on the PC but that doesn't guarentee the access speed on the DS will be that. It'll probably be trial and error.
     
  6. Micjohvan

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    I buy lots of software. Like most people here I am a collector and I like to keep my stuff in tip top shape should I ever have to sell it for some reason. I could provide you with photos of my many shelves and racks of things but I dont think its worth the effort right now. When I get the place cleaned up and have a bit more room I plan to post some pics in the collection thread.

    Keep in mind that I value reliability and hardware over software. Meaning if theres a way to run a DVD game from a hard drive without me ever having to crack a game case open you bet your ass I will do it. I had a friend give me a ISO of the game Obscure for the Xbox. I played 1 hour into it and then hunted down a sealed copy of the game 40 miles from where I live. I went and bought it the next day and its still sealed on my shelf. Thanks to Xbox modding I can play and enjoy my game without ever having to open it and devalue it. I also dont have to worry about scratchs and if my Xbox gets stolen I can make another ISO.

    My friend had his modded PSP stolen about a year ago. He lost the PSP and his 2 gig MSPD. However since he wasent carrying his UMDs around he didnt lose his games.

    Anyways back on topic the main reason for buying this flash cart is so I dont have to take my DS carts with me. I travel a good bit in a 25-30 mile radius around my home for diffrent things and I plan on my DS going with me quite a bit. This way I can have access to all my games on one cart without having to worry. The R4 cost me 40 bucks. Thats the cost of 1 real DS game ;) I am just worried about the transfer speed lagging up all the game bad. I can understand some FMV lag just as long as its not real bad. I guess I will go ahead and get the Lexar card? I have never owned anything by them? Are they any good?
     
  7. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    So far you have admitted to playing pirate PS2, PSP and Xbox games dude.
     
  8. 3do

    3do Segata Sanshiro!

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    lexar are not that bad, i got a free lexar CF card with a digital camera and so far not had any problems with it
     
  9. Micjohvan

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    I play lots of ISO's and Roms. A few I dont own but the majority I do. I only keep around the ones I like and I make it a point to buy real copies of them. There are exceptions to that rule though. I usually wont buy a game I cant get in NTSC-U format. I do own some NTSC-J Saturn and 64 games (64DD as well) however most hardware wont play NTSC-J games anymore :(

    I do Pirate PSP games though. This is because most of the games I want to play are NTSC-J only. I have all the PSP Gundam games and some Korean Music games (DJ MAX Portable ^^) that I wouldnt be able to get here in the states.

    But for the largest part I do play real games. I just love the fact that I have the ability to play backups of more then half my collection. I went to a yard sale 2 days ago. I bought a copy 0f Maximo for the PS2, it had the case and manual and looked ok but the disc had taken a beating. I was worried the game wouldnt play in fatty (my PS2) but then I though hey! I can rip it with my awsome DVD drives and put the ISO on HDL ^_^

    I guess we should stop this bickering though. To each his own and I dont know how I can make you see my point of view. Anyways I have looked around online and I havent found a way to tell speed acuratly yet. I will go with Lexar and if its slow I will return it and get a SanDisk II Ultra from a BestBuy or something. Anyways guys thanks for the help and no hard feelings Taucias?
     
  10. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    No problem, man. I want to get an Xbox so I can mod it very mainly for the purpose of taking my personally-ripped DVD ISOs-converted-to-video-files and running them on the Xbox, without ever having to get up and change them myself. It's just more enjoyable to not have to take that extra step!

    See if you can get Kingston microsd 'made in Japan.' They are supposedly on the top-quality tier. Also, any of those SANDISK PREMIER LEVEL 2 GRADE whatever super-fast advertised ones should do well.
     
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  11. Micjohvan

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    Ok, im thinking about downloading a Castvania Rom even though I dont own the game. I have been hearing its a good benchmark game and that if my card can run that game lag free it will run just about any of them. Does that sound like a good idea to you guys?
     
  12. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    Yeah, the first Castlevania supposedly has BAD lag on the intro movie (and probably other parts) in ROM form via flash. That's your benchmark. Demo it, check it out, see if it's worth your bucks.
     
  13. ashpool

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    Also, with a poor MicroSD card Castlevania PoR freezes alot when you teleport. Cards with a "SD-C01G JAPAN" serial seem to work pretty good. There's a compatibility guide here (bottom of page).
     
  14. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

    RyanGamerGoneGrazy Clubbies Are Minis Too!

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    i have that exact same micro sd card your reffering to, bought mine for my supercard rumble lite a few weeks back. I haven't noticed any sort of speed reduction in any of the stuff i tried....I've read around, and it seems you should only be seriously concerned with speed issues if your using an older slot 2 flash cart, or an older compact flash card (or at least thats what i was told)

    FYI. there's alot of unique hacked roms around, like the mario kart beta, which had unreleased tracks that were found in the rom (if you get the chance, its also neat to disassemble some roms)

    I use my supercard to demo alot of japanese titles before i import them, i don't use my psp for many iso's (i find them too time consuming to get) though i use it for alot of my own ripped ps1 games.....
     
  15. MindChild

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    Don't treat us like we are stupid. I know I am not. There is a whole lot of crap that just about anyone does that would constitute as pirating. We all do it. Just like we all pick our nose when no one is looking. Aside from the "Something being illegal doesn't mean it is morally wrong" speech, coming down on someone like you are better than them, just because they are open about it, is plain disgusting.
     
  16. Micjohvan

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    Ummm I can tell if you are siding with me or not lol. But I think you are so thanks lol.
     
  17. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Regardless of what lurkers come out of the woodwork when this kind of topic raises its ugly head on this message forum, piracy is never right and it is never acceptable. If you want foreign games there are plenty of ways to import them. Since this is a place of collectors and people that care about videogames and the games industry I don't know why you keep posting these kind of "idiots guides to ripping off games" type threads.

    There are loads of forums on the 'net that handle this kind of thing. I just wish this wasn't one of them.
     
  18. Micjohvan

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    I did pop my ass on here and be like "HEY I AM GETTING A R4 TO PIRATE SOME SHIT! WHAT IS THE BEST MICRO CARD SO I DONT GET LAGS!!!???"

    I drove my ass to Wal-Mart and BestBuy and had me a look at several Micro Cards. I found that they didnt have any kind of information on read and write speeds on the packages so I looked online with little success. So thinking my fellow hardcore gamers here might be able to help me make the right decision I asked and I got bashed.

    If I asked people what the fasteset PC hard drive was I doubt you would be saying I would use it to pirate? But whats the diffrence? PC hard drives can be used for other things? So can the R4 but being a gamer you know I will be playing games from both it and my PC hard drive so will you just assume I am pirateing them?

    All im saying is I asked for a micro SD card speed and you turned it into a piracy topic. I guess I should have just said I need a super fast micro card for new new camera?
     
  19. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    You got bashed by me because you openly admit, and have done in the past, to playing pirate games on your various games systems and then come here asking for help to pirate yet more games, this time on your DS. Don't play innocent dude.
     
  20. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    I have no problem if his intentions are not to use the card for the purpose of not paying for games. He said that he wanted it so that he wouldn't need to take all his games with him, which is cool beans by me. If he wants to demo DS games, then I have no problem with that either, because if he likes one then he'll buy it, if not then he won't. However, I do agree that foreign games should be bought just as well. (Hell, I did it with Ouendan 2 just because I heard Ouendan 1's sales were poor, and I wanted to help out.) Yet, I figure all the more reason to demo foreign games because there's no easy way to try them out beforehand.

    And of course, glorious homebrew.

    Taucias, I can relate with you in that, devices like these are used by the majority to simply pirate. It's like... 10% of people don't use these to avoid paying for games. (Bullshit stat taken out of my butt, but let's run with it.) It's almost like people that don't use them for piracy are still supporting it anyhow by purchasing a product frequented by piraters (R4, M3, etc), thus increasing demand for said product, causing more to be made, and the cycle continues. In my opinion, the devices are already here, so why not just use them for better uses?

    I planned to get an M3 lite to check out homebrew (old school Lemmings + Cave Story), those non-commercial Club Nintendo DS games (that I can't even get because I'm not a resident of Japan so I can't cash in points), and to DEMO games.

    The funny thing is, I won't even tell my friends about these flash cart devices because I know the only thing they'll care about is not having to pay for games. They could give two shits about homebrew and the like.
     
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