I have a couple questions.

Discussion in 'Japan Forum: Living there or planning a visit.' started by takeshi385, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    I thought you were German? You should know how it happened. Germany declares war on Poland, which immediately is followed by a declaration of war against Germany by Great Britain and France (and all their pupppets and colonies), who for some reason never declares war on the Soviet Union, who are also waging war against Poland.
     
  2. A. Snow

    A. Snow Old School Member

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    Always wondered why Japan didn't do a pincer attack with Germany on Russia instead of attacking the US and forcing our hand. Resources were afterall the ultimate goals for both Operation Barbarossa and the Pearl Harbor attack. I'm guessing manpower and logistics as the most likely reason but I still find it odd that I've never found anything about such an idea. Seems like strategy 101 to me.

    Not much of an "Alliance" if you ask me. Germany and Japan got all the downsides of being allies and no real tangible benefits.
     
  3. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    The battles of Lake Khasan and Khalkin Gol probably played a big part.
     
  4. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I guess Japan used their bullshit cop out (difference in culture) way back then, too. Is it that hard to believe (even 60 years ago) that if you rape and pillage other nations you maybe get sanctioned? I'll admit I'm not even a hobbyist historian, but it seems even the Imperial Army should've assumed that would happen.
     
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  5. oli_lar

    oli_lar Resolute Member

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    I can't really fathom it either. Just like Shinzo Abe saying/doing daft things regarding the horrible things Japan did in the war - but that isn't new. They did far worse things than the Nazis (in the sense they did it to anyone that wasn't Japanese, and the scale of it) - burying people alive, freezing limbs solid/vivisection while the person was alive, mass forced prostitute camps ('Comfort women'), mass and accepted cannibalism etc etc. A lot of them got away with it too and even those that didn't mostly had very light sentences.

    Only the Japanese could on the one hand apolagise (badly) and on the other state they didn't break any international laws on the subject!
     
  6. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    Not to play the Devil's advocate here, but neither did Germany.

    And to everyone who responds: Remember the difference between morals and actual law.
     
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    oli_lar Resolute Member

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    Do you have a source for that? I'm having trouble finding anything.
     
  8. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    Well, what laws would you figure they broke? It's hard for me to list every law they didn't break.

    The Geneva conventions, for example, was not in effect in the Soviet Union, making it lawful to not abide to yourself when in war with that country. (Just like USA does not have to follow it against the belligerents in Afghanistan, etc.)
     
  9. takeshi385

    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    Germany and japan could very well be ruling the world right if is wasn't for the fact that germany betrayed russia too soon and japan fucked with the u.s.
     
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  10. ave

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    It's not worse, it does sound exactly like Germany between 1942 and 1950. The same torture and extreme cruelty was executed in German CC's and after the war, many guards and doctors either fled. Like Eichmann, who was only caught because he got tracked down by Israel. Guards from CC's often either vanished and changed identities or were killed on site by the prisoners, but many of them continued happy lives and nobody wanted to investigate against them because the will to forget exceeded the formally existing need for justice.

    But that just shows that the things that happened are not particular characteristics of certain mentalities and cultures (how many people wanted to argue after the 2nd WW) but a human problem. I can very well imagine this shit happening again, I think people who deny that are just naive.
     
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  11. A. Snow

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    Never heard of those battles. You learn something new everyday. Still though, I think a cordinated attack would have been a better choice in the long run considering the alternative options for Japan at the time.
     
  12. C-Kronos

    C-Kronos Intrepid Member

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    Probably because being white in some areas of the world is a massive pro to some people? I'm not sure, I've never seen a point in judging someone based off of their race, colour, or religion.

    Maybe it's because white people are easier to animate? The few Japanese animes that I've seen where it seems like they attempted to make the characters appear Japanese, it looked kind of creepy.

    I'm not sure on if that is taught in Japan though, in regards of WWII. Although, you can blame the National Socialist party in Germany for WWII. I wouldn't blame Germans in general, I'd mainly blame the Nazis.

    There's various stories of Americans and Nazi soldiers actually getting along during Christmas back during WWII. If given a proper choice, I'm pretty sure most of the people that were Nazi soldiers wouldn't have did half the things they did.

    Given the fact that I'm mostly German, heritage wise, the Nazis completely disgust me. I know I don't agree with what they did, even though I had quite a few family members apart of the SS back during WWII; I even had family members in the American military too. It's sad when you have family fighting family.

    Well.. I'm an American, but I'm not fat, nor do I carry a gun. I'm 6'0" and I weigh around 170-180 pounds, mostly muscle from working out all summer and walking/running at least 10 miles a week.

    However, given the fact that you have to be 21 where I live to carry a weapon, and I'm only 19, I can't really carry a gun and avoid going to jail, haha.

    The only time I do have a firearm is when I'm on family property when I'm hunting deer. Although, I refuse to use deer stands in the winter after I slipped and nearly fell out of one, and I was holding a 12 gauge shotgun at the time.

    Yes, I know proper gun handling, it wasn't like I was fooling around being a moron, it was snowing and the metal stand got a bit icy, I slipped, and nearly fell about 20-25 feet to the ground.

    Luckily I have a good bit of upper body strength and I was able to catch myself and pull myself back up.
     
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