Ideas Region Free n64?

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  1. LeHaM

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    Hi all,

    I have a NTSC-J n64 and a real beat up PAL n64

    I want to mod the ntsc unit to use both CIC's from both unit's, I've heard of something like this before but caan't find much on it..

    The two systems may be different mobo models, did nintendo use the same cic pinout on all systems?

    If they are the same, is there some method of switching all 16(?) pins at the same time with only one switch?

    Thanks
     
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    It's problably one of the hardest mods possible :-(
     
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    proarturs The force is with me

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    It would be real nice if the N64 was like the NES. Just disable one pin on the 10-NES chip and you are region free.
     
  5. LeHaM

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    Hmm. Could we just cut the lines which would go from the n64 pif to the cart and put a pif out of any cart inbetween?
    So instead of the console working like: console -> cart -> pif
    it could just be: console -> pif pulled from cart inside console??
     
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    Had thought of that, but Badad84 put me on the path that it wouldn't work as there are a few (4?) Keys that are matched to the game...or something like that.
     
  7. sanni

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    You need to salvage a second pif out of a pal system and switch between the pif that is already inside the ntsc system and the pal one. Not worth the trouble since you can buy an Everdrive 64 and then basicly have a region free N64 with all games.
     
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    You misspelled 64drive. Plus krikzz sorta nuked the credit for the Banjo-Tooie patch from what I understand. And redirects Dextrose's domain to his (really lame on his part).

    I'd do this if someone provided me with the mobos but I'd be asking around $250-300 for the work.
     
  9. LeHaM

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    I have a pal and ntsc systems

    How many lines need to be switched? 6 or 8?
    OR is there a way of switching all (16?) at once?
    Like some sort of solid state relay?

    My idea is to make a separate pcb with pads for two pif ic's both going to a mega switch lol, which in tern, connects all lines of one pif to the console. Like I said, is there some IC based solution to switch all the lines at once using one simple switch, to choose Pif A or Pif B?
    Also has anyone dumped these IC's?
     
  10. sanni

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    Well here's the pinout

    pif.jpg

    I would start with switching VCC, PIF_DATA, DATA_TO_CIC etc. to figure out which of the 28 pins can be connected all the time and which must be switched between the two pifs.

    The easiest way probably would be using an Arduino and some relays and figure out wheter or not the Cartridge is PAL or US with a push buttonthat checks the indentation of the cartridge.

    But those are just random ideas since I'm pretty clueless to be honest.
     
  11. LeHaM

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    A physical method wouldn't work because the jap and pal carts use the same housing
    i would wire the select switch into the reset button, I'm trying to work out a way to have all the switching contained on a sub Pcb.

    press rest= pif (p) >blue led
    press rest again= pif (n) > green led
     
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  12. LeHaM

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    So I asked on another forum and this seems to be promising..

     
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