Ok lets get one thing clear before i begin, DISCLAIMER: I do not approve of piracy of any form be it on the high seas or counterfiet games..Piracy (games wise) harms the very hobby we love so much and takes money from the hard working guys/gals that bring us such fantastic entertainment. Now i shall begin xD, One day last week me and a work friend were talking about games we wanted to buy over the next couple of months when i mentioned i wanted to get Ikaruga for the dreamcast but didnt have the money to hand for the £100+ buy it now tags on ebay, now this is where he mentions a friend of a friend that could get "anything" cheap. This gets my interest so i ask him to find out if he can get said game for me, afew days later he say's his friend can get me a copy of the game for £5...now me being so stupid i believed "copy" to be a retail copy of the game so i hand over £5...not half a day later i have in my hand a cd-r burnt PIRATE copy of Ikaruga, unhappy i mention the fact that even if i meant a illigal copy i wouldnt be able to use it because i dont own a modchip or bootdisc to which he replys "doesnt need a chip or bootdisc just whack it in and it will play", so i return home £5 lighter and abit pissed off with the douchebag that ripped me off, so i try to play the thing (i did pay for it...kinda) and it works..how on earth is this possible? Btw i am bidding on a real copy now so this is just a temp thing till i win.
Yes i do mean the DC version...so what your telling me is that the DC had piss poor anti-piracy measures and thats why its dead, i mean wtf you didnt even need a mochip for the thing :banghead: @ Assembler: i wish i could get my money back but you know what these guys are like...btw this cdr is going in the bin i cant wait to get my retail copy.
no, Peter Moore gave the word to pull the plug on the DC. Piracy actually has little to do with major systems failing. On the contrary, it becomes a very good reason to own a console. Examples include but are not limited to the original Playstation, the PS2, the Wii etc. Piracy is certainly a factor when my friends decide to get a console and it's not because I have rotten mates, it's because people by nature like free shit. Sort of why the internet became so popular.
Ok...so...erm, i shouldn't feel too guilty that im playing a pirate (Garrr) copy till i get my shiny retail one.
Back in the day when I didn't had Ikaruga but no JP Dreamcast I just used the handy self-bootable Ikaruga image to play. Other bootlegs do work without modifications as well, but you need a boot-disc like Utopia. Apart from that, you could've downloaded the self-bootable image easily yourself, it's not much bigger than 20mb. Apart from that, Ikaruga does not cost a 100 pounds. In fact, less than half of that.
to be honest with you, I d just keep an ISO of it on my PC and burn it whenever the disk goes bad. 1) GD-roms fuck up easily. You pay a shit-load and a single scratch can ruin the investment. 2) the DC is no longer sold and you're buying a USED copy, hence the game's creators are not losing any money by an act of playing a burnt image on a dead console (if you're into morals) either way, I don't see why you'd want to get the original disk (save if there's artwork etc and you want it all) if you really enjoy the game. Games are meant to be played. I don't give a rat's ass if they run off a GD-ROM, an HDD or just pure love, as long as I can play it =)
I love you :love: my morality is intact ....could you also make it morally possible to kill puppys? cos i would love to hear that debate rofl Btw the last part is only a joke...clam down animal lovers :110:
I agree, but that's BS. I have had a lot of hellish-looking GD-ROM's and the all ran fine. A single scratch that messes up the whole reading process is something I rather connect with BluRays, not GD's.. and even if it happens, you can still go to a video rental store for a polish and it will work fine again. Apart from that, Ikaruga on 50Hz is pure boredom.
equating animal cruelty to piracy is a fallacy. Software piracy hurts the pocket, it doesn't cause actual pain - although many people are led to believe it equates to stealing, which thanks to digital replication is certainly not the case, as in order to "steal" you need to "permanently deprive someone of something". Stealing a hand-written bible is theft, because of the time and effort put into the act of replication. Downloading a PDF version of it costs in scale economy a lot less hence why it needs to reflect that reality. Apparently, software houses and publishers are willfully blind to that point, just as the music industry has been treating "illegal" downloads. anyway, I ll stop ranting before I post too much
I think you should destroy the copy and pray for salvation... u.u For me, some people can think it's stupid, but I don't play a game I can't afford... like some many other things... nothing against who does.... =)
Btw there are tools now that i think can make pretty much all the dc games bootables. Finally just to inform you there are isos with a bleem beta version and a ps1 game that they boot on a commercial dc, the bummer is that you can't save and some games may crush [just mentioning it, cause it's the next "coolest" thing that can be a selling point for making a profit out of back-ups ]
Piracy was the primary reason the SoA pulled the plug on the DC. After the MIL-CD exploit was found, the DC's hardware sales took off and software sales tanked immediately. Third parties started bitching up a storm at Sega because writing for the DC wasn't profitable thanks to the piracy angle and there was nothing Sega could do to "patch" the exploitable DC units. They were hosed. -hl718
All it took was one line of code left in the dc bios and that is what caused the outbreak of piracy. Makes you wonder if they should of stuck with dvd instead of going for the gdrom format. Btw, most bootlegs are self boot, only some early dc games require a boot disc.
dreamcast had a wonderful homebrew community thanks to this exploit... make sure to grap a copy of dcplaya for example....
I've lost track of all the copies of Ikaruga I have. I legit own it 3 times. Burns...I dunno at least 5
Not quite correct, or at least in a sense that sega WAS able to remove the Mil-CD exploit in the latest revisions and refurbished dreamcast units. Its just that it didnt make any difference anymore. Edit: funny to imagine all this. If the second revision of dreamcast would have already had the mil-cd removed, i'd be having a european unit that couldnt read shit but gd-r's. Didnt the japanese get an earlier unit? Ah well, in any case it was just too late in its life cycle.
I know people who use Netflix to rent DVDs and burn them and I know other people who use DS flash cards to pirate all sorts of games. Poor college student my ass. If you can't afford it, then lay off it. Though I see nothing wrong with the "software and hardware are out of print, so don't feel bad" argument.
