Installing a 360 Demo Kit in a car?

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  1. jammi

    jammi <B>Untrustworthy trader</b>

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    I had a PS2 in my old car and wanted to put a 360 in my new car (truck as ppl say in the US), as you can put the games on the demo kits hdd saves swapping disc's.

    What i would like your input on, is it a bad idea to have the 360 in a car as the 360 has alot of heat issues? has anyone here used a 360 for a car install to give me some pointers?
     
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    lwizardl Living The Dream

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    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    I don't think its a good idea at all.
     
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    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    You'd need a DC-DC converter to regulate the input voltage from the battery, then some way to get the two voltages required at the currents required.

    200-odd Watts at 16.5A will probably drain your battery within half an hour, though.....
     
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    Probably get a rrod dead real fast
     
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    Giel Intrepid Member

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    ''It's red.''

    ''The traffic light?''

    ''No, the Xbox ring.''

    ''NOOOOOOOOOO''
     
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    Matthijscoman Fiery Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. oldengineer

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    DC-DC convertor <<<< Explain???

    ...What really need is an invertor, simple.


    @ jammi, btw, 360 ICE installs works rather well, enjoy the good times :)
     
  9. jammi

    jammi <B>Untrustworthy trader</b>

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    iv got the demokit i want to install now and the battery on my Range Rover should be enough to power it if need be ill install a second battery
     
  10. Stone

    Stone Enthusiastic Member

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    Using an inverter is the easy way out but it's much more efficient to convert battery DC direct to the voltages the 360 requires - good regulators are easily above 95% efficient. The main 360 supply is 12V (standby needs 5V) so you just need something to smooth out the car battery voltage - it usually varies from 9ish V (cranking) to 15ish V (charging on alternator) so there'll never be much voltage to drop.

    By contrast you're suggesting converting 9-12V -> 240V -> 12V - the two extra conversion steps in the inverter and 360 PSU will lose you a fair bit of efficiency, and you'd need an expensive full-sine inverter to avoid potentially damaging the PSU, since most inverter outputs are nowhere near sinusoidal.

    I'd be more worried about the shock smashing up the mobo and DVD drive though - are you planning on using anti-vibration mounts? It'd be easier to just put a SNES or something in there ;)

    Stone
     
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    jammi <B>Untrustworthy trader</b>

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    i went for the demo as i can just put the games on the hdd wont really need the use of the dvd
     
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    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Exactly what Stone said. Why convert 12V to 230V, only to have the 360 PSU convert it back again? It is wasteful. Instead, you should just use the 12V battery. However, that is unregulated so you need to regulate it. You also want to get a +5V supply.
     
  13. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Just do what I did and have a Dreamcast n your car. Very simple to run via the car lighter jack and great games :) Best of all it's so small that it fits inside the glove box complete with controller!

    Yakumo
     
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    lol, yeh what stone said, indeed :clap:

    ...In the real world an invertor is the easy way out for the guy on the street, which I was assuming from jammi's post meant jammi himself?


    footnote:

    ...When I built an ICEbox, many years ago...

    http://oldengineer.com/gallery/v/mxb/xbox/custom/06-11-04+027.jpg.html


    I built a fully programmed 12VDC supply to match, can't remember the figures of how efficient the PSU worked out but suffice to say it was seriously more efficient than the 240VAC original.
     
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    oldengineer Familiar Face

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    A Dreamcast in 2009!!!

    *shudders*


    heheheheh
     
  16. Stone

    Stone Enthusiastic Member

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    It isn't if the shonky output quality blows up your 360 PSU ;) Point taken though, I wasn't trying to teach you to suck eggs!

    Stone
     
  17. jammi

    jammi <B>Untrustworthy trader</b>

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    was gonna use this should have enough room in the back above the satnav to get the xbox and psu in and theres a little space in the back for a yellow top battery
     
  18. oldengineer

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    Brilliant!

    ...If only everything in life was so easy!!!!

    ....Guess thats why you call yourself jammi????
     
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    All of us here know you loved Dreamcast dearly, but it's time to let go and move on. You can revisit the photos, remember the fun times, but it isn't the same; she's in the past, and there's nothing you can do about it. You knew it couldn't last. Sometimes you just need to stare boldly at the hand fate dealt you, and move on. It's really in the best interests for both of you.
     
  20. JackAz!

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    I have just an Xbox in my car with the HDD mounted seperately. Runs flawlessly. I wouldn't trust a 360 :p
     
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